..... a guy you have been on a few dates with, decides to break up with his f*ck buddy to be with you, but wants to see where things go with you, and doesnt ask or expect you to stop seeing other people at this stage? Is that an invite to be the new F*ck buddy?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
What does it mean when....
- Thread starter Cinamon
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Yes.Cinamon said:
Are you signing on ?
DonJuanit0
Master Don Juan
haha!
Why would someone have only 1 f*ck buddy when he can have 2 or more?
Why would someone have only 1 f*ck buddy when he can have 2 or more?
I just dont get it with him. He has told me he is not planning to date anyone else, doesnt wanna know if I am seeing anyone else or not, so long as i dont lie to him. If he were a 7, then I am an 8 in appearance, he's cute, but not the usual type of guy i would go for, but he made me *** over and over again the other night, which is a bonus.
I think he would be lucky to get a girl like me, so why isnt he trying to?
I just think he is setting himself up to be used by me, and thats not a good thing. This has happened in the past, where guys have pretended to be all casual, and then they just get emotionally attached, and one of started stalking me etc, and almost gave me a nervous breakdown.
I think I have got that thing, where I am only interested in him cuz he isnt actively pursuing me, someone needs to give me a firm slap to bring me to my senses.
I think he would be lucky to get a girl like me, so why isnt he trying to?
I just think he is setting himself up to be used by me, and thats not a good thing. This has happened in the past, where guys have pretended to be all casual, and then they just get emotionally attached, and one of started stalking me etc, and almost gave me a nervous breakdown.
I think I have got that thing, where I am only interested in him cuz he isnt actively pursuing me, someone needs to give me a firm slap to bring me to my senses.
fertileTurtle
Master Don Juan
You like it when men aren't took up in your face about how they feel about you. You need an easy-going guy then.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
It's game and you love it. Now stop your moaning. If he was all up your ass you'd be running from him. You been here long enough to know what's going on. This is attention seeking behavior by just posting this. Stop playing.
Just a Shot Away
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"I am an 8 in appearance"
"he made me *** over and over again the other night, which is a bonus."
Has it been verified that this is even a chick? This stuff has troll written all over it.
"he made me *** over and over again the other night, which is a bonus."
Has it been verified that this is even a chick? This stuff has troll written all over it.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Another woman with a bloated ego who is pissed because some guy isn't fawning all over her..Cinamon said:
He owns the frame here and you don't like it.
Listen to this- he is only interested in your pvssy while ever it suits him. Every one of your sistas has one too. The world is swimming in vagina. There is a tsunami of poon out there and you are just one small drop in that ocean.
KontrollerX
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He's running game on you that works with chicks that are looking for relationships.
He's also playing on your psychology in hopes that you will buy his story about you being his only girl and thus he hopes you will find that sacrifice on his part moving so that you decide that you don't want to have any other fvck buddies either and tell him that.
This way he wins in that he gets a fvck buddy who no other guy is plowing which brings with it the reward of less STD risk, ego gratification of being the only one to have you, the joy of winning the game etc.
Also of course he continues to swear to you that you are the only one...
Meanwhile he's banging other chicks on the side ala Sosuave SunnyD's tale of woe.
The end result?
You get played.
Well if you were an AFC female you would anyway.
You can win if you simply never tell him that you will be exclusive with him as well and if he presses for that committment say goodbye to him. :rock:
He's also playing on your psychology in hopes that you will buy his story about you being his only girl and thus he hopes you will find that sacrifice on his part moving so that you decide that you don't want to have any other fvck buddies either and tell him that.
This way he wins in that he gets a fvck buddy who no other guy is plowing which brings with it the reward of less STD risk, ego gratification of being the only one to have you, the joy of winning the game etc.
Also of course he continues to swear to you that you are the only one...
Meanwhile he's banging other chicks on the side ala Sosuave SunnyD's tale of woe.
The end result?
You get played.
Well if you were an AFC female you would anyway.
You can win if you simply never tell him that you will be exclusive with him as well and if he presses for that committment say goodbye to him. :rock:
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
Sweetie,
My gut says: This guy likes you... a lot. He's into you, but trying to play it cool & discreet. He's willing to put his player's card away, and pine you, hoping that you fall for him... exclusively. He wont do it forever. If you dont come around in a couple of months, his strong feelings will get in the way. He will start to get jealous, and then bitter. But if you do go exclusive, he will look for a LTR with you. Let us know.
My gut says: This guy likes you... a lot. He's into you, but trying to play it cool & discreet. He's willing to put his player's card away, and pine you, hoping that you fall for him... exclusively. He wont do it forever. If you dont come around in a couple of months, his strong feelings will get in the way. He will start to get jealous, and then bitter. But if you do go exclusive, he will look for a LTR with you. Let us know.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
You answered your own question in the same sentence. Why isn't he trying to? Because you think he'd be lucky to have you. The moment he starts trying is the moment the frame slips over to you, you lose respect for him and yourself (for dating below your grade), he gets boring, supplicates and you throw him out like a used kleenex. You said it yourself, he's not the type you'd normally go for, bingo.Cinamon said:
He's playing it perfect. Non-exclusivity, forces her to qualify for him, engages the woman's imagination, good sex to lock in the physical reward / reinforcement element, DHV with confidence in holding a woman above his grade's attention - the guy's good, you must admit. He's the PRIZE, not you dear. You're lucky to have him.
Women would rather share a successful man than be saddled with a faithful loser - Pook
kingy
Senior Don Juan
you arent with someone unless its exclusive in my opinion. otherwise u are just hanging out.
exclusive i mean, traditional relationship, threesome relationship.
also if u are both screwing around at early stages then its probably going to be very unhealthy relationship if u finally get together. as the past will be brought up over and over again, its often a lot better to be innocently in love rather than having an ugly history whilest u knew each other.
i'd just be honest, im looking for us to be exclusive, if not then just cut contact - **** buddies is gay, why would u even bother if u have abundance.
exclusive i mean, traditional relationship, threesome relationship.
also if u are both screwing around at early stages then its probably going to be very unhealthy relationship if u finally get together. as the past will be brought up over and over again, its often a lot better to be innocently in love rather than having an ugly history whilest u knew each other.
i'd just be honest, im looking for us to be exclusive, if not then just cut contact - **** buddies is gay, why would u even bother if u have abundance.
kingy
Senior Don Juan
Rollo Tomassi said:
hes not playing anything, he just simply doesnt care. if he did he wouldnt want her boning around. not all guys think like us remember
old married dude
Senior Don Juan
Like others above have said, he's running game on you & it sounds like his game is tight. Maybe he's secretly one of the legends or moderators here.
If you're bothered by this then look elsewhere.
You're a girl, you have a pu$$y, and if you're an 8 like you say, you should be able to go find a new potential FB in the time it took me to type this post (and I can type quite fast BTW).
If you're bothered by this then look elsewhere.
You're a girl, you have a pu$$y, and if you're an 8 like you say, you should be able to go find a new potential FB in the time it took me to type this post (and I can type quite fast BTW).
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
C'mon Cin, update. I think he's falling for you. Let us know.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
IF you are actually above him, he may be willing to give up others to land you.BUT women in this age have delutions of grandeur. I've had women who make 1/10th of what I do try to give me investment advice. women who would be lucky to catch me for a night when I'm drunk, tell me I need to date them for 6 months first[I don't want her now, why would I want to hang around for 6 months?] WOmen who are "life coaches" trying to run my life.
If you arent "all that", he's trying to land you as FB2
If you arent "all that", he's trying to land you as FB2
Update: I went out with him again on Thursday and Saturday night last week, and he seems to be investing a lot more effort in to this than in earlier days. I dont think he is the kind of guy I could be in a monogamous relationship with, and I certainly dont want to use him and leave him feeling used and unwanted. We chatted on Saturday night, and I said to him that i didnt think we had enough chemistry to build a relationship, but I did enjoy the bit of time we spent together and what we got up to. I told him that as a fb he would be great (but in a more lady like manner), but there couldnt be anything more. He responded with, he didnt need to travel so far if it was sex he was after and that he didnt want to be an FB. So, I am guessing I am not going to be seeing him again.
I had a disastrous first date on Friday night as well, to make things worse. Not done to well on the guys front last week, but its a new week, and I can sense hope in the air.
I had a disastrous first date on Friday night as well, to make things worse. Not done to well on the guys front last week, but its a new week, and I can sense hope in the air.
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
I was right, he is/was into you, and liked you a lot.
Just a Shot Away
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Sorry if I missed something here, I'm sort of uninitiated. But why is an alleged female posting for help with guys on a forum dedicated to helping guys seduce girls and develop inner game?
And furthermore...why are guys helping the aforementioned chick?
And furthermore...why are guys helping the aforementioned chick?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.