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What does it mean when a girl doesn't engage eye contact with you?

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Is it because she's shy, submissive, or is it because she's not interested?

I've had mixed reactions from different girls.
 

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One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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American fatties don't do eye contact. They just don't. You creep them all out. Any guy who has travelled knows exactly what I mean.
 

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SeymourCake said:
Is it because she's shy, submissive, or is it because she's not interested?

I've had mixed reactions from different girls.
I gather that you are looking to learn about signs of attraction in women?

There are volumes written on this subject...
In fact there is one in the 'Articles' section of this very site.
 

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I know some IOI women give off, but why won't some engage in eye contact?
 

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SeymourCake said:
I know some IOI women give off, but why won't some engage in eye contact?
Shy, compulsively avoidant, socially awkward, their mother did the same, playing coy, wants you to leave her alone.

By itself, poor eye contact means little conclusively because of the myriad possible explanations.

Stong eye contact, on the other hand, always means attraction .
 
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I was talking to this Columbian girl and she didn't engage eye contact but I went for the number close anyway and she gave me her number.

You sure she wanted me to leave her alone?
 

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SeymourCake said:
I was talking to this Columbian girl and she didn't engage eye contact but I went for the number close anyway and she gave me her number.

You sure she wanted me to leave her alone?
Was it a real number? Did you screw her? Whatever the result is, you have the answer.

Awhile back, a girl was passing me and looking straight ahead. I pass her and tell her she looks good, she turns and says I'm hot immediately as if she was waiting to say it. I didn't see any signs beforehand that she even noticed me, but she did.
 

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Was it a real number? Did you screw her? Whatever the result is, you have the answer.

Awhile back, a girl was passing me and looking straight ahead. I pass her and tell her she looks good, she turns and says I'm hot immediately as if she was waiting to say it. I didn't see any signs beforehand that she even noticed me, but she did.
Women are experts at scanning the 'manscape' - and mostly you would never know that their radar is active, but it always is.

They are watching you, boys. They do it so subtly .
 

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BigJimbo said:
American fatties don't do eye contact. They just don't. You creep them all out. Any guy who has travelled knows exactly what I mean.
Hey guys, maybe I am on the wrong track. Is it me, or are you in agreement that we should take up a collection and buy a blow-up doll for Big Jim, so he can spend his free time getting laid, and shut up about obsessively bashing The USA?
 

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Joe Stud said:
Hey guys, maybe I am on the wrong track. Is it me, or are you in agreement that we should take up a collection and buy a blow-up doll for Big Jim, so he can spend his free time getting laid, and shut up about obsessively bashing The USA?
I've actually noticed that in some US places there seems to be less eye contact. I make a lot of eye contact because I am a curious person, and it's very rare to see a person not break eye contact if they were looking at me.
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Cant you say that about ANY Country? "in some UK places there seems to be less eye contact". "In some 3rd world countries, there seems to be less eye contact" etc etc.

Look at his past posts... constantly bashing the USA. Make observatons, but why bash peoples Country?
 
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