"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I didn't know Tyler was still at it. Dude makes me tired just looking at him, I swear he must be hyped up on Adderall. They say he's been diagnosed with ADD, so that's very plausible. All that constant chatter.
 

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I didn't know Tyler was still at it.
I think that footage is a few years old, pretty sure Owen has less hair now. I wonder how long he can keep putting "LAST CHANCE" on his content, as if he's retiring and his work will be lost. He seems to just keep going anyways trying to sell his coaching, seems a bit desperate.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I dunno. He's out of shape, seems sort of gay, looks like Santa, and appears to be cranked up.

He's fearless and very socially dominant though (probably cocaine confidence), so I guess that's the takeaway.
 

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I dunno. He's out of shape, seems sort of gay, looks like Santa, and appears to be cranked up.
He's lost weight since that footage IIRC, but I agree with your assessment. I'm sure he would say that he's "in state".
 

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He's lost weight since that footage IIRC, but I agree with your assessment. I'm sure he would say that he's "in state".
Remaining “in state” likely requires frequent 30-second bathroom trips.
 

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Remaining “in state” likely requires frequent 30-second bathroom trips.
He's like a jackrabbit on amphetamines.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Same **** with his buddy rsdmax. He did those videos and I think also faked ,to gain a ton of follower's and then go and promote another coaching in a different field.
 

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Let's start with the positive. Shows confidence of some sort, not sure what sort, but some sort. Most women will find him friendly but that is about it, a girl would have to be pretty drunk (or a low hanging fruit girl) to find him sexually attractive. For most men, he is a bit annoying and over the top. Being direct with women and having no fear of rejection is great but you have to have a sexual aura to you. We don't see any sex appeal to him, not just in the way he looks but how he presents himself and his vibe.

Obviously, that is our perspective as men. Not sure what a woman would actually think of him.


Cheers brother,
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I shown this dude's mugshot to a few females. One almost threw-up in her mouth. This dude is butt U-G-L-Y. I cannot believe he can get an average female; let a lot an above-average or hot one (except or a night and some serious $$$).
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I've known about Owen and many other RSD instructors for about 7ish years. I could honestly write a giant wall of text on Owen alone, let alone RSD.

I will say, Owen is a fairly complex character. He's not a scammer, because his pickup skills are truly incredible (as someone pointed out, mostly from extremely high-energy social dominance). I went to a PUA bootcamp with him a couple years ago in LA (a buddy of mine had paid for the course but had to cancel, so he let me go in his place, otherwise there's no way I'd pay the $2500 or w/e it was).

It was extremely disorganized and kind of pointless overall, but there were definitely some useful bits of advice here and there. That's really most of what RSD comes down to: sage advice hidden under lays of horse****, marketing tactics, and other shady BS.

Owen is an incredible PUA, I witnessed it firsthand. He gave a demonstration on a street corner where he approached literally EVERYONE, even a spanish couple (who he went up to and started speaking in Spanish and danced with them) and pretty much everyone loved him. Almost every girl he talked to would follow him on IG and left looking happier than before they talked to him. He was basically a magician. He's more or less an ADHD autistic-savant and he's very bad at communicating anything, so you basically have to listen to him talk for 2 hours to get about 5-10 minutes of actual useful information.
 

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I've known about Owen and many other RSD instructors for about 7ish years. I could honestly write a giant wall of text on Owen alone, let alone RSD.

I will say, Owen is a fairly complex character. He's not a scammer, because his pickup skills are truly incredible (as someone pointed out, mostly from extremely high-energy social dominance). I went to a PUA bootcamp with him a couple years ago in LA (a buddy of mine had paid for the course but had to cancel, so he let me go in his place, otherwise there's no way I'd pay the $2500 or w/e it was).

It was extremely disorganized and kind of pointless overall, but there were definitely some useful bits of advice here and there. That's really most of what RSD comes down to: sage advice hidden under lays of horse****, marketing tactics, and other shady BS.

Owen is an incredible PUA, I witnessed it firsthand. He gave a demonstration on a street corner where he approached literally EVERYONE, even a spanish couple (who he went up to and started speaking in Spanish and danced with them) and pretty much everyone loved him. Almost every girl he talked to would follow him on IG and left looking happier than before they talked to him. He was basically a magician. He's more or less an ADHD autistic-savant and he's very bad at communicating anything, so you basically have to listen to him talk for 2 hours to get about 5-10 minutes of actual useful information.
So he's a chick .
 

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you basically have to listen to him talk for 2 hours to get about 5-10 minutes of actual useful information.
That's a good summary of most pickup material IMO. There's about a page worth of actual information, but they want to sell a book so they stretch that out with a few hundred pages of filler.
 

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That's a good summary of most pickup material IMO. There's about a page worth of actual information, but they want to sell a book so they stretch that out with a few hundred pages of filler.
Extend that to most creative enterprises as well. Especially books - publishers want to justify charging $20 so they demand it be 6x longer then necessary.
 

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I disagree. He is socially dominant. If he approaches 100 women in a night, one gal will give him some ass. That’s all that matters in the end, right?
I can't identify with him. He's too in your face/dancing monkey for me. James Bond is more my style. I saw another video of him bragging about being a dead beat dad and not paying child support. Definately not someone guys should be looking up to.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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