Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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What do YOU think is the most attractive thing a girl/woman sees in a guy/man?

If we were to narrow it down to ONE thing. What yields the most success w/women?

  • Your wealth/social status

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • Your charisma/charm

    Votes: 16 32.0%
  • Your game/personality

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • Your beliefs/ways you reality

    Votes: 3 6.0%
  • None of these. I have my own top reason and I will describe it in detail below

    Votes: 7 14.0%

  • Total voters
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MurdocIsGod

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Looks... But you can make up for it if you don't look great. I hate seeing that fat delusional guy on YouTube... Has anyone seen that? He's about 10 tonnes walking around hitting on girls and getting rejected every single time. Then the comments are like "try to neg more!" No! He's getting rejected because he's horrendously fat and unattractive not because he "didn't neg"!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Jariel

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Ease said:
If you think my post was outdated you need to look deeper into the world around you.
Unfortunately, the perception of masculinity is changing. If you think about male icons in the past, you had Chalton Heston, Clint Eastwood, then you had your action hero types like Stallone, Bruce Willis and Arnie, but during the past decade the line between masculinity and femininity has become quite blurred with guys like David Beckham...and now we have guys like Zac Effron and Beiber.

I was flicking through a women's magazine recently and it had a list of "Top Beach Hunks". Nearly all of these guys were skinny waifs and to be honest I'd be embarrassed to take my top off in public if I looked like them. And yet the comments were talking about how "buff" they were and about their great abs (no mention of their spindly arms though).

It must be a generation thing. I do find that most women my age still go for the rugged man, but a lot of the younger girls seem to love the effeminate type.

I could go on huge rant about how the media is attempting to emasculate men, but once I start I'll find it hard to stop.
 

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Jariel said:
Unfortunately, the perception of masculinity is changing. If you think about male icons in the past, you had Chalton Heston, Clint Eastwood, then you had your action hero types like Stallone, Bruce Willis and Arnie, but during the past decade the line between masculinity and femininity has become quite blurred with guys like David Beckham...and now we have guys like Zac Effron and Beiber.

I was flicking through a women's magazine recently and it had a list of "Top Beach Hunks". Nearly all of these guys were skinny waifs and to be honest I'd be embarrassed to take my top off in public if I looked like them. And yet the comments were talking about how "buff" they were and about their great abs (no mention of their spindly arms though).

It must be a generation thing. I do find that most women my age still go for the rugged man, but a lot of the younger girls seem to love the effeminate type.

I could go on huge rant about how the media is attempting to emasculate men, but once I start I'll find it hard to stop.
You was looking at a magazine aimed at teenage girls!
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Ease said:
If you think my post was outdated you need to look deeper into the world around you.
Thanks for the advice. I don't know where I'd be without you to guide me through life!
 

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David beckham: http://rihot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/1310409039-30.jpeg

No homo but is there anything feminine about this guy? He's got a nice gentlemanly british swagger about him but thats his style.

Zac Effron?

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2010/02/efron-houston/zac-efron-houston-hot-04.jpg

Yes he plays a high school teen and dresses and acts like a kid on tv, but theres nothing necessarily feminine about him. He plays up his pretty boy cute side for his appeal. But you would eat excrement for the kind of money he makes.

Now justin bieber

Lets not forget he is like 15 years old, thats true, but nothing feminine about him apart from his haircut. He is a ****y arrogant superstar what is not to love about him for a 12 year old girl. He is more masculine and confident than you think.

And i know for a fact that when i google 'top beach hunks', i dont see any skinny waifs.


Here is a fact: Western [ie. anglo-american], society emasculates men. And heres another one: society suppresses instinct. But you can never completely suppress or change it.
 

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oneboy21 said:
1) Looks
2) Race
3) Wealth
4) Health
That's what they will look at, but when it comes time to go home, they go home with money and status, but it's OK, while she's sucking me off she might be THINKING about that hot guy she left behind in the club.
 

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If we are talking about what causes attraction, you can make a long list and then try to rank order it, but I believe it is looks. To put that more accurately, appearance. Attraction even for women I believe is mostly visual and to a lesser extent auditory, how your voice sounds and to an even lesser extent what you say. That's not to say what you say isn't important but unless you talk about really negative things or such, the content is mostly pass or fail and how you appear makes the difference.

Appearance encompases personality, style and a whole lot of other things. You could try to separate out which facet of your apearance that is most important but you are being judge on the totality of your appearance by women, so I don't see it as that separable.

If you have a lot of wealth and fame, I'm talking like being a TV, movie or proverbial rockstar, and not just some guy who makes up to a few $100k, then that is an attractor that trumps looks and appearance.
 
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Jariel said:
At one time I would've agreed with you and that's definitely something that made a difference to my success, but I'm seeing so many hot girls with skinny emo kids and camp guys with floppy hair and earrings. It's not even as though they demonstrate masculine qualities in their behaviour, as they're pathetic little wimps. And yet they still seem to get the girls?!

Edit: Atom Smasher beat me to the Beiber reference.
Rarely will I ever disagree with you Jariel, but in this case I think Beiber DOES actually prove the point that girls like masculine qualities.

This may sound crazy but here's why: Yes it's true that Beiber may have some feminine qualities such as longer hair (which isn't always feminine) and high pitched voice. However masculinity encompasses MUCH more than just physical appearance. As much as everyone likes to bust on him, you have to hand it to him, Justin Beiber is massively successful. He's talented. He's a charming kid, does his own thing and is passionate about it. He has a tremendous presence and is a great performer. And these qualities as well as numerous other qualities about Beiber ARE masculine. These qualities ARE what makes Beiber attractive to girls/woman.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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We human beings have five sensory organs. i think every body knows what they are. I don't understand why women pay so much attention to visual appearance.
 

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I see many good, different points of view. As for the statistics, the first three

answers are practically in equilibrium and that proves my point. We are

surrounded by many different ideas and we must make our own selection.

However, if you can combine these in a good blend, you will have more women

chasing after you than you want. This is the next step in my research.

Keep this up and succeed, guys!
 

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Voice said:
As much as everyone likes to bust on him, you have to hand it to him, Justin Beiber is massively successful. He's talented. He's a charming kid, does his own thing and is passionate about it. He has a tremendous presence and is a great performer. And these qualities as well as numerous other qualities about Beiber ARE masculine. These qualities ARE what makes Beiber attractive to girls/woman.
No denying he is a HUGE success, but I'm not sure I'd consider these qualities masculine as you could say the same thing about Britney Spears.You also have to ask if someone like Beiber could (or would even try to) protect his girl in a fight or rescue someone from a burning building?

Obviously I don't know how Beiber himself would react to a dangerous situation or confrontation, but I see so many guys who model themselves on him or those scrawny emo kids, and I've watched them run from spiders and moths or wince when a balloon comes near them in case it bursts. I've seen them cower in fear when some guy hits on their girlfriend and make excuses about how they prefer to solve confrontations with a strongly worded email.

There were local reports recently of 2 wimpy policemen who watched a kid drown in a pond because they "hadn't been trained for such scenarios". No self respecting man of my generation could live with himself if he allowed any of this to happen.

Maybe it's not so much that today's men are more feminine, there just happens to be more and more shameless wimps.
 

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I think the masculine/feminine celebrity argument is moot.
Women are attracted to these guys BECAUSE they are celebrities.

It doesn't matter if they are old, young, macho, girly, etc. They will still get lots of 'tang.

Females will lust for the macho Vin Diesel type as well as a less macho Zack or Justin Bieber type. Either type will get loads of females due to celebrity status. Having talent, passion, or "alphaness" is just icing on the cake and serves to increase their fan base.

Take a short, fat guy with missing teeth, give him plenty of Hollywood exposure and women will want to F him.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Jariel said:
No denying he is a HUGE success, but I'm not sure I'd consider these qualities masculine as you could say the same thing about Britney Spears.You also have to ask if someone like Beiber could (or would even try to) protect his girl in a fight or rescue someone from a burning building?
I'm gonna stick with my argument here. The difference with Brittney Spears is it's not her FAME that attracts guys it's her big tits, skimpy outfits and sexual innuendos. I could care less if Brittney Spears was famous or not I'd still want to fvck her. If anything, the fame is maybe a little intimidating.

We can compare it to people like baseball players. Derek Jeter never saved anyone from a burning building. He's not exactly the biggest and strongest guy in the MLB. He's not macho, he's a quiet modest guy. However, he is passionate and massively successful at what he does. He's the captain of the Yankees. He's probably the most famous baseball player right now. Girls swoon over this. These qualities ARE masculine. Now compare this to Amy Wombach on the US soccer team. She lead the World Cup in goals and is one of the best soccer players in the world. Do I care? No because she's not hot. Now look at Hope Solo. She's hot and I can care less whether she's one of the best goalies in the world, I'd still want to fvck her.
 

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It all comes down to what your interpretation of masculinity is, which is kind of my point really. In my generation, masculinity was more related to physical strength, courage and leadership...much like the alpha males in the animal kingdom. Whereas today's generation of men are more soft and sensitive.

I'm gonna stick with my argument here. The difference with Brittney Spears is it's not her FAME that attracts guys it's her big tits, skimpy outfits and sexual innuendos. I could care less if Brittney Spears was famous or not I'd still want to fvck her. If anything, the fame is maybe a little intimidating.
But I'm not talking about attractiveness here as I know that Beiber and his like DO attract women, as do skinny emo kids who wear make up and flamboyantly gay men. I'm just talking about male and female roles in society today.

In the 80s and 90s, there was a much bigger contrast between male and female role models, but place Beiber and Miley Cyrus side by side and they're almost identical in every way.
 

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MONEY AND/OR POWER. That isn't what Hollywood wants you to think though. Nope. Here is the truth. Most female sex symbols in Hollywood lost their virginity to creepy old dudes who had power over them. Those old dudes also are the ones who make the money in Hollywood. It is the way life goes. Power is sexy to girls. Most of you are MUCH too young and powerless to get that.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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