"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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What do YOU think is the most attractive thing a girl/woman sees in a guy/man?

If we were to narrow it down to ONE thing. What yields the most success w/women?

  • Your wealth/social status

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • Your charisma/charm

    Votes: 16 32.0%
  • Your game/personality

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • Your beliefs/ways you reality

    Votes: 3 6.0%
  • None of these. I have my own top reason and I will describe it in detail below

    Votes: 7 14.0%

  • Total voters
    50

Masculinity

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This is a very simple poll question. I want to know, what YOU think is the most if important thing to have in oder to be successful with women. I don't want to hear what the books/seminars/online stuff say. I want to hear your TRUE opinions; your votes will stay anonymous, so don't be a liar liar!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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personally i think girls, like all people, are just looking for the most bang for the buck.


they all want the highest value guy they can possibly get. what they consider high value though, varies from girl to girl. but the general idea involves physical appearance and financial/social success.
 

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Wealth\social status- Well, there was a new thread yesterday about a rich guy who doesn't get any girls.

Charisma\charm- Very important. To have charisma\charm you must love being yourself.

Personality- same as charisma? beliefs- part of your personality? They seem all so subjective to me. You should have specified these things better.

Game- important, but if you are depressed that will eventually drive girls away.

None of these. I have my own top reason and I will describe it in detail below 4 33.33%
Yet I only see one reply.
 

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What happened to looks? Do they not count, or are they part of charm?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I'm not sure if the OP is referring to things we can or can't control.

For things we can't control, I would say height is the most powerful attract tool out there.

For things we can control, I think athletic build and/or muscles is top.
 

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1) Looks
2) Race
3) Wealth
4) Health

This is for normal girls

for Gold diggers and druggies, it will be different
 

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^^ What bigneil says, plus good hygiene.

Something I've never seen mentioned on this forum is the fact the in the past 15 years, the media has done a dramatic shift and has conditioned women to value looks MUCH more highly than they naturally would.
 

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All wrong.

Your masculinity is the most important thing that women look to. This decides social status, and includes your style, authority, dominance, confidence.

And so on so forth we all know what masculinity is about.

But im dumbfounded why this isnt top of your list and the first thing mentioned in replies.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Women value looks for only one reason.
they want to have a good looking guy next to her so that she can carry him like a puppy dog/ louisvitton purse. She wants other people to see this and envy her. Wants to make her gf's jealous and her ex's jealous. They consider physical attraction = good looks. But they don't know that one day physical attraction shades away
 

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looks before she meets you, but more importantly if you feel free with your sexuality.
 

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Ease said:
All wrong.

Your masculinity is the most important thing that women look to. This decides social status, and includes your style, authority, dominance, confidence.

And so on so forth we all know what masculinity is about.

But im dumbfounded why this isnt top of your list and the first thing mentioned in replies.
That was yesterday, brother, not today. Women today freak out over Justin Beiber types and consider them "Alpha".

I've got tongue-in-cheek just a little. You are correct that at a very base level, women respond to masculinity, but many women are also intimidated by it, hence the Beiber Syndrome.
 

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Ease said:
All wrong.

Your masculinity is the most important thing that women look to. This decides social status, and includes your style, authority, dominance, confidence.

And so on so forth we all know what masculinity is about.

But im dumbfounded why this isnt top of your list and the first thing mentioned in replies.
At one time I would've agreed with you and that's definitely something that made a difference to my success, but I'm seeing so many hot girls with skinny emo kids and camp guys with floppy hair and earrings. It's not even as though they demonstrate masculine qualities in their behaviour, as they're pathetic little wimps. And yet they still seem to get the girls?!

Edit: Atom Smasher beat me to the Beiber reference.
 

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Jariel said:
At one time I would've agreed with you and that's definitely something that made a difference to my success, but I'm seeing so many hot girls with skinny emo kids and camp guys with floppy hair and earrings. It's not even as though they demonstrate masculine qualities in their behaviour, as they're pathetic little wimps. And yet they still seem to get the girls?!

Edit: Atom Smasher beat me to the Beiber reference.
Agreed. I think in order it goes:

Status > Wealth > Masculinity > Looks > Game/charisma > Personality

Status is the end all-be-all. This would explain the Justin Beiber phenomenon. When you're on top of the world, everyone wants you. That's why he's such a huge target and has so many haters. In the end, it's pure jealousy.

Wealth. It's why you say ugly CEO's and fat business men with gorgeous looking chicks.

Masculinity I put before looks because I have seen some huge muscle headed dudes with some jacked up looking faces. Acne scars everywhere, crooked noses, big ears, and they seriously look like they've been to hell and back. But for some reason, their massive arms get them attraction from beautiful woman. I think that's why "go to the gym" is such a used response here, because it really is a cheap way out. Your face can be ugly as fvck, but woman will love those big arms and "V" shaped bodies.

Looks. Pretty boys/emos etc.. I think a lot of girls may seek these types out but it is generally the younger woman. Looks is usually also accompanied by another trait (masculinity, status, or wealth) which is probably why you see some hott woman with a "what-the-****-is-she-doing-with-him?" kind of guy. Meaning, a woman will pick a good looking man with status over an average looking man with status. Looks is another variable, but it is also a very important one. Looks is low on my scale because I'm assuming it's all you have to offer and nothing more. But accompany it with any of the earlier traits and you pretty much have it made.

Game/charisma: Is just like looks. Accompany it with another trait and you have a better advantage. I believe game is extremely important and it may be explain why you see a good looking girl with an average looking dude. He's bypassed her logic and got straight into her emotions. Sometimes in a woman's head she can think "Why do I like this guy? He's not even that attractive.." but her emotions wont let her leave. This is straight game right here, and/or psychology. A beautiful woman that was abused may cling towards a man she knows is abusive, regardless of looks or not.

Personality: The betas/AFCs etc... These men usually don't get their turn until the woman is like 40 and has already completed her transformation into complete trash. It's time for her settle down and tie the knot on some man that can give her some security. These types also get lucky occasionally when a woman suffers a damaged ego after a break up. If the AFC can manage to show even a little sexual interest he might get lucky, but generally his "conscience" tells him that he doesn't want to just have sex with her, he wants her to love him. This is the lowest on the scale because truth is, girls don't really give a damn about your personality. That's why they love assh0les and badboys.

-Scars
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Scars said:
Agreed. I think in order it goes:

Status > Wealth > Masculinity > Looks > Game/charisma > Personality

Status is the end all-be-all. This would explain the Justin Beiber phenomenon. When you're on top of the world, everyone wants you. That's why he's such a huge target and has so many haters. In the end, it's pure jealousy.

Wealth. It's why you say ugly CEO's and fat business men with gorgeous looking chicks.

Masculinity I put before looks because I have seen some huge muscle headed dudes with some jacked up looking faces. Acne scars everywhere, crooked noses, big ears, and they seriously look like they've been to hell and back. But for some reason, their massive arms get them attraction from beautiful woman. I think that's why "go to the gym" is such a used response here, because it really is a cheap way out. Your face can be ugly as fvck, but woman will love those big arms and "V" shaped bodies.

Looks. Pretty boys/emos etc.. I think a lot of girls may seek these types out but it is generally the younger woman. Looks is usually also accompanied by another trait (masculinity, status, or wealth) which is probably why you see some hott woman with a "what-the-****-is-she-doing-with-him?" kind of guy. Meaning, a woman will pick a good looking man with status over an average looking man with status. Looks is another variable, but it is also a very important one. Looks is low on my scale because I'm assuming it's all you have to offer and nothing more. But accompany it with any of the earlier traits and you pretty much have it made.

Game/charisma: Is just like looks. Accompany it with another trait and you have a better advantage. I believe game is extremely important and it may be explain why you see a good looking girl with an average looking dude. He's bypassed her logic and got straight into her emotions. Sometimes in a woman's head she can think "Why do I like this guy? He's not even that attractive.." but her emotions wont let her leave. This is straight game right here, and/or psychology. A beautiful woman that was abused may cling towards a man she knows is abusive, regardless of looks or not.

Personality: The betas/AFCs etc... These men usually don't get their turn until the woman is like 40 and has already completed her transformation into complete trash. It's time for her settle down and tie the knot on some man that can give her some security. These types also get lucky occasionally when a woman suffers a damaged ego after a break up. If the AFC can manage to show even a little sexual interest he might get lucky, but generally his "conscience" tells him that he doesn't want to just have sex with her, he wants her to love him. This is the lowest on the scale because truth is, girls don't really give a damn about your personality. That's why they love assh0les and badboys.

-Scars

What you mentioned in your post is true. Lets only talk about regular ordinary people, lets don't include celebrities and CEO's
If you are like Justin beiber or CEO of a big company your don't need to game them, chicks usually throw them selfs at you!
 

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Reputation.

How many girls have already pre-approved you. Also a woman is more attracted to a guy if he has other women giving him attention.
 

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Maxtro said:
Reputation.

How many girls have already pre-approved you. Also a woman is more attracted to a guy if he has other women giving him attention.
This is true especially in the rich and advanced societies where girls can afford to dont worry about protection and shelter.

While reputation works everywhere I would say that in less advanced places or even dangerous ones things as social status and wealth make girls wet.
It's not a conscious choice,it's just that they are programmed to do the best thing in their own interest.

If you live in a nanny state you seek a guy you can brag about with your friends and who share your housework cause you have no other needs, if the crime rate is fkn high you need a strong man that can feed and protect you so in exchange you spread your leg and do the housework.

A factor is also the male to female ratio, if you are surrounded from men you look for the bad boy who give you the thrill cause even if he leave you you can pick an other guy in a day.
While if you are surrounded from other women you go for the serious guys who is less likely to cheat or leave you, women can be as desperate as men given the right circumstances.
 

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If you think my post was outdated you need to look deeper into the world around you.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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