"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What do you say at the end of a good first date ?

lifemisspent

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So you feel it went well, now you are dropping her off at her home , car whatever, what do you say ? I always find this a little akward.

Im looking forward to seeing you again ?
Call me later in the week ?
What are you doing next so and so ?


:confused:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I.A.F.Y.B.

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Say; I had fun with you tonight. We should get together again. If she agrees. You can say alright, I'll call you later.
 

Kal0051

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Well, if it was a good date I'd probably say "Morning, sorry to wake you but I got to go to work." lol
 

Tictac

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Rather be lucky than good

I lucked out and got to say one of those things where I usually think of an hour later.

As I got her into her car, we kissed. It was great. She offfered me a mint (I know what you're thinkin', I read here and I didn't 'need' one, she was just being nice). I said "no thanks, you tasted great. That'll last me 'til later".

She laughed. I closed the door and walked to my car.

I got 3 texts before I got home about when we could get together again.

Tictac
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ease

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well if it definitly went good, then say ill call you.

or ill be in touch.

or ill see you.

You're the one that makes the dates, so you call her, not otherway around. And 'i hope to see you again' doesnt sound very manly to me :(..
 

scrouds

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"are you going to let me in, or should we just continue making out on your porch?"
 

Da Realist

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A good first date:
"Had a nice time. We should do this again."

A great first date:
"The feeling will return to your legs in a couple weeks."
 

King Turi

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Long story short, here's what you say:

"What, no kiss?"


If she kisses you, yay.
If she doesn't, find other chicks 'cuz she ain't interested.
 

Allurre

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Don't ASK questions.

Keep it simple, say "I had a great time. Talk to you again soon."

Keep her guessing to whether she'll see you again :) and also when.

Be the one IN PURSUIT.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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DonGorgon

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the less you say the better.. women enjoy wondering if you like them or want to see them again.. if you make it clear that you do it turns them off and they are more prone to reject you wen you ask them out again.

most women are dating many many men and have an appointment system in place to see different men.. you cannot act too eager and available to see her again cause then she will think are desperate and lonely (which most men are)

Dont call her before 2 days have passed.. and wen you do call dont ask her out.. Tell her you were thinking about doing something and gauge her interest then tell her you will be in contact to let her know the details..
 

Smack

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DonGorgon said:
the less you say the better.. women enjoy wondering if you like them or want to see them again.. if you make it clear that you do it turns them off and they are more prone to reject you wen you ask them out again.

most women are dating many many men and have an appointment system in place to see different men.. you cannot act too eager and available to see her again cause then she will think are desperate and lonely (which most men are)

Dont call her before 2 days have passed.. and wen you do call dont ask her out.. Tell her you were thinking about doing something and gauge her interest then tell her you will be in contact to let her know the details..
Nailed it.

If it turns out well and you two kiss then don't say anything or than 'bye' or something to that affect. How you say it also matters. You should be able to work this out yourself, though.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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