"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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OLD case. It happens a lot honestly, its quite annoying.

Im having a funny conversation and then after 30min or more (maybe next day) when we talk about meeting, she says she'd:
"rather learn about you more before meeting"

Is this low interest level? Were their previous first dates bad that now they are this scared? Or they dont believe I am real? What should I reply? or Just ignore unless she someday texts me and suggests meeting?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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how did you meet the gyal?
 

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OLD case. It happens a lot honestly, its quite annoying.

Im having a funny conversation and then after 30min or more (maybe next day) when we talk about meeting, she says she'd:
"rather learn about you more before meeting"

Is this low interest level? Were their previous first dates bad that now they are this scared? Or they dont believe I am real? What should I reply? or Just ignore unless she someday texts me and suggests meeting?
Answer "ok no problem."

Then go date other women. Do not reach out. Let her do the reaching from this moment forward. If its low interest then you wont be wasting your time.

Just remember to remain a challenge if she does start reaching out. Letting her get to know you electronically will turn you into her new friendzone pal.
 

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Is this low interest level?
Yes.

Were their previous first dates bad that now they are this scared?
No.

Or they dont believe I am real?
No, they believe you are real. They are interested enough in you for texting but not interested enough for dating.

What should I reply?
Them: I'd rather learn more about you before we get together.

You: Right on. (delete them forever from your memory).

Just ignore unless she someday texts me and suggests meeting?
No, ignore them forever. Focus on other targets.

Sales funnel.

cold leads --> warm leads --> hot leads

Don't hang on to cold leads just in case they someday morph into warm leads.

Always be prospecting.

Always be qualifying.

Always be closing.
 

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I agree with all the above advice, but im gonna put a spin on things now,

These women have no intention of dating WHATSOEVER...... and there on the rise, spreading like a virus

These women have sad pathetic and lonely lives it consists of finishing work fetching a bottle of wine or 4 and sitting on there sofa till they pass out
theyve probably got a couple of lads who come round fortnightly to bang

you are 1 of 500 cyber husbands OP
When they pull that card on ya, you leave the building and leave her with 499
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I think the "would rather get to know you better first" comes from texting too much in the beginnng and being too available.

If they didn't find you slightly attractive they wouldn't be responding to you. The response of waiting to meet is actually a sign of her interest dropping.

It's happened to me several times on OLD if I was too available when messaging. Back off a little and I think you'll see a different result with these women. Make them work for your time instead of giving them too much of it. It works like a charm.
 

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From the Dj Bible:
"Your ego is one of your biggest obstacles and you would do well to rid yourself of false pride" (Don't confuse ego with self respect )

IV. Don’t play by her rules
"If you allow a woman to make the rules she will resent you with a seething contempt even a rapist cannot inspire."

Even though the: ""Would rather get to know you better first" sound like LI , you could answer simply with: "The only best way I know to get to know each other is meeting face to face. You have my number, bye for now". That way you keep your frame intact,you didn't play into her game, and you still left the door open for her to get back to you on your term, while meantime you interact with other girls. You are aloof, indifferent toward her, b'cos you have other options, and that the vibe she'll get from you.If she'll be back in the future with higher IL than good, if not , not a big deal, b'cos you have other options.
 
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