"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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what do you older guys think about persistence?

hustler69

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what is persistence v.s. being annoying and desperate?? I know girls like persistent guys and they test guys to see if they are for real but this girl I went on 2 dates so far and the last one only for a hour because she had class but anyway she tells me shes was busy last week and this week she could chill so I text her yesterday and got nothing back so far? should I call back tomorrow or friday? and give her the 3 strike rule? what do you guys thik?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Amante Silvestre 2

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The difference between persistence and being annoying/desperate is charm and flirtation.

Persistence is a fun, little game where she giggles/laughs while saying "no".
Being annoying is always serious.

Persistence is when you always expect her to turn you down.
Annoying is when you always expect her answer to change.

Persistence is when you can have but don't want someone else.
Annoying is when you keep trying to get her because there is nobody else.

Persistence is a light and playful thing where the outcome doesn't matter.
Annoying is all about the outcome.
 

Julius_Seizeher

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Whenever I catch my mind spinning into endless debates about contingencies and how to have the perfect plan, I remind myself that for anything that is worthwhile to be had, there will always be a degree of risk involved to get it. There is no way that we can know every possible angle before we act, we must weigh the knowledge we already possess and have the guts to pull the trigger.

Teach yourself to thrive in the unknown versus trying to eradicate it.
 

Pandora

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As a general rule of thumb think about all your past girlfriends and all the girls that were head over heels for you. How long did they make you wait before they returned your call or wanted to hang out with you (prob not very long). Compare that to how this girl is acting and you will have ur answer.

Chances are that if you have to ask this question, then she is not that interested in you. If you pursue you run the risk of her looking at you as desperate and it being counterproductive. And if she is interested in you and is still playing these childish games then that is indicative of a chick that has issues.

Its been repeated over and over by myself and other posters. 95% of the time if a girl likes you and you guys have mutual chemistry with each other, the girl will make it easy for you to hang out with her. In fact shes going to be excited to hang out with you. She might play little coy games in the beginning, but that is anti slut defense fake resistance.

There are tons of chicks out there who will like you for you (assuming you are a non desperate, socially well adjusted guy). You just have to find these girls. It might take you ten girls in order to find one that you click with, but she is out there. Why waste your time with a girl that is acting like this?
 

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hustler69 said:
I know girls like persistent guys and they test guys to see if they are for real
I think you should change this to

i know girls like guys that are hard to get and they test guys to see if they will lose their cool under pressure
Sounds like you're losing your cool my older friend.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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