"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What do you guys think about my ultimate plan to get the woman I want??

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I'm around 13% bodyfat right now...I very badly need to get down to 8 or 9% body fat. I actually have that classic facial structure for the chiseled jawline (wide jaw, strong low chin, high cheekbones) and my face already looks very masculine at 13% bodyfat, but at 8% BF, I would have that classic male model sunken cheeks look

I'm talking about this look






My plan to get there is I'm going to do the protein sparing modified fast diet...which is a very low calorie, super high protein, high fiber diet that will get you shredded in no time. I need to lose 15 lbs in a month


After that point, I will get professional photos done and just hammer online dating. I figure the percentage of women who fit my requirements is maybe 2-3% of women online so if I do match, eharmony, okcupid and every other site...I can maybe find 300 or 400 women who fit my requirements. Out of that, surely a couple would be willing to go out on a date with me no? Once I get a date, I should be good


I'm going to keep trying to work on myself in real life but real life dating is so hard because I'm so ultra picky that the vast majority of women don't fit my wants and the most who do aren't going to be single anyways or they're in a situation where approaching is extremely difficult but I will continue to try to improve myself and be more confident and be more genuine around women. I think women have a great bull**** detector and they can tell when you're not being natural/genuine around them
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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When you go out to a bar and order a drink, and the bartender slides it in front of you... Is there usually a slice of watermelon in it? Little umbrella in there maybe?

Just curious.

nah, I drink whiskey on the rocks
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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No what he needs is a noose and a sturdy beam. That or Jesus to take the sodomite out of him.
 

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You think way too highly of women... they're not even worth starving yourself for

that diet isn't that hard, you're just going to be mildly hungry most of the day but I can deal with that


I NEED To get down to 8 or 9% BF. That looks horrible on a lot of men but I have identical facial structure to that guy in that pic (the huge lower face/jaw/chin with high cheekbones. It would look very good on me)
 

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Your still executing the same plan. Listen to those who e been successful in your endeavor .

Tyler of RSD recommended at least four years immersed in game. When you have enough game to have twenty girlfriend then your experienced enough to pick one without oneitis.

Player Supreme also recommended four years in game to learn life and learn yourself . He actually was a proponent of picking a proper wife after you were experienced .

You already look good enough especially for ethnics in Chicago.

Your problem is a lack of game . You have not been on "full" in a long g time due to a picky standard when you have nobody. Women CAN see this in your face and the way you act are them.

Believe me they KNOW whose not fvcking . Ask some of your experienced female contacts .

This is why one of the most important parts of game us a man needs to be getting laid.

When he has options then he can afford to be pickier.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Lol I'd love to see what op actually looks like.

I look very similar to that guy in real life (hes israeli, I'm Armenian)

I just have to get lean to get that sunken cheeks look like he has
 

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Your still executing the same plan. Listen to those who e been successful in your endeavor .

Tyler of RSD recommended at least four years immersed in game. When you have enough game to have twenty girlfriend then your experienced enough to pick one without oneitis.

Player Supreme also recommended four years in game to learn life and learn yourself . He actually was a proponent of picking a proper wife after you were experienced .

You already look good enough especially for ethnics in Chicago.

Your problem is a lack of game . You have not been on "full" in a long g time due to a picky standard when you have nobody. Women CAN see this in your face and the way you act are them.

Believe me they KNOW whose not fvcking . Ask some of your experienced female contacts .

This is why one of the most important parts of game us a man needs to be getting laid.

When he has options then he can afford to be pickier.
Four years wasn't enough for me. Took me almost a decade to "get it" completely. I agree completely though. Rollo also said a man needs to experience abundance in order to kill the beta. I had three plates I was regularly sleeping with for months and I got bored of it. That's when I really started to understand it. From there I started to learn about LTR's and screening and truly internalized being the prize. Even in my current LTR, she's a catch but I still meet women from time to time who I can tell are into me who are LTR potentials. I'm lucky to have my girl but she's just as lucky to have me.

Dave thinks so little of most women that when he meets one who matches his standards he won't know what to do.
 

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Four years wasn't enough for me. Took me almost a decade to "get it" completely. I agree completely though. Rollo also said a man needs to experience abundance in order to kill the beta. I had three plates I was regularly sleeping with for months and I got bored of it. That's when I really started to understand it. From there I started to learn about LTR's and screening and truly internalized being the prize. Even in my current LTR, she's a catch but I still meet women from time to time who I can tell are into me who are LTR potentials. I'm lucky to have my girl but she's just as lucky to have me.

Dave thinks so little of most women that when he meets one who matches his standards he won't know what to do.
I see women who match my standards all the time

here's the basic problem. The ones i have natural opportunities with are never the ones I want. The ones I want are always in situations where an approach is very very difficult
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I look very similar to that guy in real life (hes israeli, I'm Armenian)

I just have to get lean to get that sunken cheeks look like he has
Those are cheek bones, you either have them or you don't. Fat loss makes very little difference unless you want to get yourself down to malnourished levels.
 

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Those are cheek bones, you either have them or you don't. Fat loss makes very little difference unless you want to get yourself down to malnourished levels.
i have the high cheekbones with the very strong/prominent lower jaw and chin. People here have seen my face - im very masculine looking

but I have to get lean to that get that super angular face with the sunken cheeks. My face is already pretty angular at 13% bf. I really need to get to 8% to see the huge difference

at 8% Bf, your face really starts to look masculine. You lose a lot of the neck fat and your jawline is massively pronounced
 

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i have the high cheekbones with the very strong/prominent lower jaw and chin. People here have seen my face - im very masculine looking

but I have to get lean to that get that super angular face with the sunken cheeks. My face is already pretty angular at 13% bf. I really need to get to 8% to see the huge difference

at 8% Bf, your face really starts to look masculine. You lose a lot of the neck fat and your jawline is massively pronounced
You are like a nice version of Richard the frog.

Still can't work out of you are a troll or not....
 

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You are like a nice version of Richard the frog.

Still can't work out of you are a troll or not....
Most posters here have tried to help him for a while. I was naive as well and thought he'd be a don juan in no time. He just needed to work on a couple of little aspects and he'd be great. No progress has been made though.

For months, I've come to the realization that he is either a dedicated troll (because like Richard, he stays very loyal to his gimmick and that's what sets them apart) or someone with severe mental issues who won't do a thing about it. Either way, it's pointless to keep giving him attention on his threads because he's gonna ignore all of it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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