Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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So I asked this girl I used to fancy if she'd like to come out with me some time. She wants to. Typical movie -> dinner type thing. Told her we can get to know each other better etc. etc. etc...

So anyway, tonight I get a text on my phone, I guess she has a boyfriend? Not that I knew about this... He writes "hey can you leave my girlfriend alone?!" (must've saw a text I sent her)... about 10 minutes later she texts me and says "ahh ignore my boyfriend's text I have to pretend I haven't spoken to you!"

So what do you make of this situation? I guess she's lying to him pretending we don't speak, and not telling him we're going out together? He doesn't like her speaking to me because of things in the past.

Thanks guys :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You'll get mixed responses on this.

Something I personally value is positive energy (Joy, Growth, Happiness, laughing, excitement, good vibes etc)

I don't value negative energy (drama, bullying,useless arguments, bad vibes, anger,sadness etc)


So this is at the core of all the decisions I make. Getting involved with a woman that has a bf texting you to leave his gf alone doesn't seem like it'll create positivity for your life. So I'd pass on it and find a different woman without a bf.
 
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Id say this is a woman hiding stuff from her boyfriend. That's enough drama already. What's the best case scenario? she dumps him for you. Now looking at the fact she hides things from him, how can you trust she's not going to do the same to you? I'd say forget that situation and go for someone else or enjoy life. No need for her to be in it.
 
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rtb227 said:
Id say this is a woman hiding stuff from her boyfriend. That's enough drama already. What's the best case scenario? she dumps him for you. Now looking at the fact she hides things from him, how can you trust she's not going to do the same to you? I'd say forget that situation and go for someone else or enjoy life. No need for her to be in it.
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Actually the best case scenario is OP dates / has sex with her on the side while looking for other women.
 
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She's trash.

get in (if you must) then get out.

even if you win her over, she'll do it to you as well eventually

I know first hand...it happened to me once.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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ArcBound said:
Actually the best case scenario is OP dates / has sex with her on the side while looking for other women.
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yeah that's true if he can get that id say go for it but shes definitely not dating material
 
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rtb227 said:
IWhat's the best case scenario? she dumps him for you. Now looking at the fact she hides things from him, how can you trust she's not going to do the same to you?
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I echo this. I usually won't try to get involved when the girl has a bf anyway, but these antics could be troublesome down the road.
 
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Alright thanks for the opinions guys... So anyway I told her I'm on holiday for a week and I'll get back to her soon.

She told me to use a code phrase when I text her, I have to say "stop ignoring me :(!" then if she replies it means she's alone and it's safe to talk, and if she doesn't reply it means she's with him and has to blank me.

So yeah, she's most definitely going behind his back with this. But I'm not really sure what she wants. I'm not sure she'd split with him... At least not at the moment, perhaps if we become quite close? But really I have no clue what to expect or what her motives are for wanting this.
 
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i have been in a similar situation. Play it out. Hang out with her and see how far it goes. If you can have your way with her, great! If you fall for her, you're going to get burned. This is a very treacherous path you are taking. I also been down this path, and frankly, some girls will just not leave their boyfriends no matter what you do. Most girls are careless. They may not consider you a "mistake" later on, but a self-discovery of how much her boyfriend means to her.

Be a man and play the game out. Its fun as h3lllll. Free sh1t is the best sh1t....
 
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That just sounds like bad news waiting to happen man, I wouldn't bother!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I know it probably won't end well, but I mean I don't have anything to lose. If she stays with him then yeah, that's fine I guess.

I kinda want some insight into why she's doing this though, and what to expect. I haven't taken out a taken girl before, or "gotten closer" to one. I mean yeah in the past I wanted girls who had boyfriends but those relationships usually didn't last long. I'm not sure what her motives are.
 
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MurdocIsGod said:
I kinda want some insight into why she's doing this though, and what to expect.
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Attention ho. thats why.

expect interest, then disinterest.

A roller-coaster ride.

Buckle up!
 
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