"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What do you do when you (accidentally) pysically hurt a women?

Dedication

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Now i'm not talking about chris browning a chick, but more when:

- You are just doing what you're doing and she got in the way and got herself hurt.
- You are being playful and while ejoying yourself you stick a finger or an object in her face just a bit too hard.
- Etc.


I always feel bad, but i'm unsure what to do since it seems like women, unlike men, really emphasize on how hurt they got. When i say 'sorry' it doesn't do anything because she will be 'hurt' for 5 more minutes. WTF?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You should tell them that they wouldn't have gotten hurt if they had been in the kitchen.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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dvjackson said:
downplay it by exaggerating the severity of it in a lighthearted way... in other words joke about how you have to amputate the body part or something.
Ah yeah, i see the merit in this, thanks.
 

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A woman loves it when her man gets brutal with her. Stupidly brutal is better. Sexually brutal is best. No apologies. To get what you want, you'll hurt her if you have to. She must apologize to you for making you have to hurt her again. But you see, she provoked you to see if you still love her. The bruises prove you do. Not long ago, she would show them off to her girlfriends like some sort of blue ribbon for her sexual desirability. The girlfriends would pretend to empathize with her pain. Then they'd scheme about how to get you alone.

This is not to be confused with the sh1tty cvnt who calls the police and makes a false claim of spousal abuse.
 

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Down Low said:
A woman loves it when her man gets brutal with her. Stupidly brutal is better. Sexually brutal is best. No apologies. To get what you want, you'll hurt her if you have to. She must apologize to you for making you have to hurt her again. But you see, she provoked you to see if you still love her. The bruises prove you do. Not long ago, she would show them off to her girlfriends like some sort of blue ribbon for her sexual desirability. The girlfriends would pretend to empathize with her pain. Then they'd scheme about how to get you alone.

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much truth here

the gross reality is that western women have been socialized to be lesbians....hating everything that makes them female and rendering them unable to submit properly to men...as is their only purpose in life.

these militant lesbians hate women...desire to be men...and thus hate men even more.

and so these women are useless...unable to bear children or serve men...unable to feel pleasure in submission to men...

and men are too stupid to see this in the womyn that surround him
 

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Down Low said:
A woman loves it when her man gets brutal with her. Stupidly brutal is better. Sexually brutal is best. No apologies. To get what you want, you'll hurt her if you have to. She must apologize to you for making you have to hurt her again. But you see, she provoked you to see if you still love her. The bruises prove you do. Not long ago, she would show them off to her girlfriends like some sort of blue ribbon for her sexual desirability. The girlfriends would pretend to empathize with her pain. Then they'd scheme about how to get you alone.

This is not to be confused with the sh1tty cvnt who calls the police and makes a false claim of spousal abuse.
Why is it a false claim of spousal abuse? Were you there? Do you realize your post could be considered as promoting date rape?

To all of you young High School and college kids looking for answers, don't pay attention the post above.
 

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Burroughs said:
much truth here

the gross reality is that western women have been socialized to be lesbians....hating everything that makes them female and rendering them unable to submit properly to men...as is their only purpose in life.

these militant lesbians hate women...desire to be men...and thus hate men even more.

and so these women are useless...unable to bear children or serve men...unable to feel pleasure in submission to men...

and men are too stupid to see this in the womyn that surround him
and you, you have issues, think everyone knows that.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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lol im having trouble discerning what's real and what's not real!!

Down Low's claim that women like to be brutally used, I dunno..... Give me some facts, where is the research to back up the claim???

Same for Burroughs claim that women have been socialized to be lesbians.... I can see quite some truth to it, but I dare not believe it. Hetero women will be hetero women. Sometimes their nature trumps the nurture.

Either way I wanna see research! Double-blind in-field studies!
 

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plate's_empty said:
Do you realize your post could be considered as promoting date rape?
Do you realize that the term "date rape" was invented about 20 years ago -- that beforehand, no such concept even existed in social discourse? No, of course you don't.

It's a standard feminist ploy to criminalize normal, healthy, male sexual aggression, while lobbying for the power of the state to protect and embolden women who tease up men as a way to act out their hatred of everything masculine. To you, the earlier situation leading up to the event is meaningless. The context of the current action is meaningless. All that matters is whether a man used his physical prowess upon or in proximity to a woman. You reduce male behavior to abstractions devoid of their broader social, psychological, and reproductive realities, while inflating antipathetic female suppositions about that behavior to world-encompassing import.

Do you realize your post could be considered as promoting entrapment?

How sick that you play yourself off as protecting children!

tl;dl: you're a faggot
 

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Chamber36 said:
lol im having trouble discerning what's real and what's not real!!

Down Low's claim that women like to be brutally used, I dunno..... Give me some facts, where is the research to back up the claim???

Same for Burroughs claim that women have been socialized to be lesbians.... I can see quite some truth to it, but I dare not believe it. Hetero women will be hetero women. Sometimes their nature trumps the nurture.

Either way I wanna see research! Double-blind in-field studies!
Well, i won't say that i have seen a lot of studies but i can tell you that Down Low is right from my own personal experience. Maybe mature women are different but the women i meet that range from age 16 ~ 20 are sometimes, (as in: some of them, not most.) too eager to interpret a joke or a single interaction as an insult and they will verbally or physical let other men know by a small margin of abuse. Like giving them a slap, punch or an insult.

Now, i've seen these women do that kind of stuff to all kinds of men: strangers, adults, children, their family and friend. And especially "boyfriends" aren't excluded from the abuse some women dish out.

Here enters Dedication: I am more of an extreme kind of guy that never lets a women take someting at my expense, physically speaking. I don't care how socially awkward the moment gets or how little of a jab it was. If it makes me feel bad then i will return the favour. I've pushed girls on conreet, slapped some asses a bit harder than i was supposed to and my early judo & jiu jitsu training has helped me a lot with restrainment.

Now this is where the interesting part arrives: Those women who i beat down, somehow love me for it. Their eyes shine and they respect me, they laugh harder at my jokes and are being nicer to me. They now want to fill my cup, but sorry. Most of the time its already full. To me it feels like all the **** they dealed out was just one giant **** test, they where just waiting for the right man to put them in their place.

Is there something wrong with me? Could be. But i'm not only acting on behalf of myself but also on all the men that have to take all this **** from women. It sickens me when i see the kind of **** they take. It sickens me to no end. And besides, i can always rationalize it away with this: "If she didn't start it and had some self control, i wouldn't have to punish her." Those kinds of women force me to play my hand because if i don't i lose what i am. I don't want to be the next "boyfriend" they can manipulate into feeling bad, i'd rather be hated then have my dignity taken away from me.

For all the dumbasses reading this: I am speaking about physical abuse here, i can take jokes and i'm convinced that i know the difference. Not all women are like this, in fact, most i meet aren't. But to the <50% that are.

Lastly, you think that there will be studies about this? Get some first hand and personal experience, you'll see WTF is really going on with some women out there.
 

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Slapping a girl in the ass and recognizing when she wants you to get aggressive is a little different than:

A woman loves it when her man gets brutal with her. Stupidly brutal is better. Sexually brutal is best. No apologies. To get what you want, you'll hurt her if you have to. She must apologize to you for making you have to hurt her again. But you see, she provoked you to see if you still love her. The bruises prove you do.
new guy on sosuave discussion forum: This girl came over last night but she wouldn't let me bang her. She's coming back over tonight, what should I do?

Don Juan poster: A woman loves it when her man gets brutal with her. Stupidly brutal is better. Sexually brutal is best. No apologies. To get what you want, you'll hurt her if you have to. She must apologize to you for making you have to hurt her again. But you see, she provoked you to see if you still love her. The bruises prove you do.

new guy on sosuave discussion forum: great, when she walks through the door I'll just rape her!
 

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plate's_empty said:
Slapping a girl in the ass and recognizing when she wants you to get aggressive is a little different than:



new guy on sosuave discussion forum: This girl came over last night but she wouldn't let me bang her. She's coming back over tonight, what should I do?

Don Juan poster: A woman loves it when her man gets brutal with her. Stupidly brutal is better. Sexually brutal is best. No apologies. To get what you want, you'll hurt her if you have to. She must apologize to you for making you have to hurt her again. But you see, she provoked you to see if you still love her. The bruises prove you do.

new guy on sosuave discussion forum: great, when she walks through the door I'll just rape her!
I dislike how you place statments in out of context scenario's.
I dislike how your scenario is so far from reality.
I dislike how you make a scenario on behalf of another person.
I dislike how you invent a "new guy on SS" yet you're a new guy. You joined this very month. Did it happen to you? No? Why not? Because nobody is that ****ing stupid.

Do you really believe that a new person would enter a random topic, read a post about being brutal with a women would go out and suddenly RAPE a women? How stupid are you.

I don't dislike you, since i know nothing about you at all. But this post is stupid as **** because you severely underestimate the intellegence of "new people"... Or did you perhaps rape a women yourself based on a single post?
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Burroughs said:
much truth here

the gross reality is that western women have been socialized to be lesbians....hating everything that makes them female and rendering them unable to submit properly to men...as is their only purpose in life.

these militant lesbians hate women...desire to be men...and thus hate men even more.

and so these women are useless...unable to bear children or serve men...unable to feel pleasure in submission to men...

and men are too stupid to see this in the womyn that surround him
I don't know about being socialized to be lesbians, but there is definitely a bunch of ****ing liberal feminists out there. And holy sht avoid them at all cost. They will stop at nothing to ruin you.

There's a difference between being physically dominant and physically abusing a female. There is a difference between hickeys and black eyes. There is a difference between a spanking and a punching. There is a difference between throwing a girl on a bed and throwing a girl on concrete. Abusing a female is pathetic. If you get off on it then so are you.
 

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I think you'd be surprised Dedication on how many stupid people there are in this world. Words can be powerful and ,yes, believe it or not, they can be misconstrued and viewed in different ways. That is the point (and what i thought, obviously exaggerated). I hope that's okay with you.

Some of the advice on here should be for mature people who have experience, someone that can filter through the advice and use it at the right time and place. Someone "young and dumb and full of ***" may take some of this advice to heart and use it at the wrong time and the wrong place. And next thing they know they're getting a knock on the door from the police.

This is your thread.

Let me ask you a question? Why do you need to start a thread about "What do you do when you (accidentally) physically hurt a woman" (I corrected your spelling, I hope that doesn't bother you) Does it happen so much that you need advice on what to do? I gave you the benefit of the doubt at the time, and didn't think so. What you explained could happen to a lot of us. And yes, sometimes, things do go overboard with a woman, and you need to stop and slow down. But your responses seem to state the contrary. But that's just my view point and if that pisses you off then so be it.

Respond all you want, this is my last post on this thread, I've said what I needed to say. Construe it as you will.
 
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Some of the advice on here should be for mature people who have experience, someone that can filter through the advice and use it at the right time and place. Someone "young and dumb and full of ***" may take some of this advice to heart
Let's see . . . shaming men as immature . . . ridiculing and trying to interfere with older men giving advice to younger men . . . and then throwing a temper tantrum and holding her breath:

plate's_empty said:
...that's just my view point and if that pisses you off then so be it.

Respond all you want, this is my last post on this thread, I've said what I needed to say. Construe it as you will.
Welcome back, Concerned Laurie.
 
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