"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What Do You Do If Your Into Several?

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I do my food shopping at this one store and without a shadow of a doubt I know two babes there who like me and I could easely ask out. One is in the bakery and the other a cashier in another section of the store.

Now I like both and one is younger than the other and I want both to ask out so how do I go about doing this without hurting the others feeling or do I let the two know about the other so its not a major issue down the road?

Give me some ideas but in simple terms how do you date several women at the same time?

LoneSilver
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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LoneSilver said:
Give me some ideas but in simple terms how do you date several women at the same time?

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Don't let them find out about each other. Ask each one out when the other isn't around. You're not committed to either one, so it's not like you're "cheating" on one with the other. And if they get snippy, just drop one and tell the other that the one you dropped "was just a one-time thing and you didn't connect" or some other BS.
 

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I'll have to try that seems fair enough.

Thanks squirrels

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squirrels said:
Don't let them find out about each other. Ask each one out when the other isn't around. You're not committed to either one, so it's not like you're "cheating" on one with the other. And if they get snippy, just drop one and tell the other that the one you dropped "was just a one-time thing and you didn't connect" or some other BS.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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squirrels said:
Don't let them find out about each other. Ask each one out when the other isn't around. You're not committed to either one, so it's not like you're "cheating" on one with the other. And if they get snippy, just drop one and tell the other that the one you dropped "was just a one-time thing and you didn't connect" or some other BS.
Hopefully they aren't good friends, it would be a bit like seeing two women from work.
 

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Who's hotter? Sarge that one first, then work the other one, just be above board non-exclusive with both of them and don't get wrapped up with either. Then sarge that other cute one in produce and the pharmacy.

Ask for the moon and you'll be surprised how often you get it. Too many guys sell themselves short in their own self-consciousness. Audacity will get you into dating both these girls, timidity wont get you either one.
 

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There is a concern these two know each other and work the same hours most of the time.

One is around 24 no kids the other around 38 divorced two son's from what I have heard.

LoneSilver
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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The practical reality is it’s very unlikely you will hurt their feelings going for both. I’ve been guilty of overestimating my “amazing” affect on women much to my surprise. LOL

They know the game. A little competition is not bad either.

If you are worried about their feelings now, before you pull the trigger, then this will bug you the whole time. You will not be free of it.

I say just pick one, the hottest one. Go prospect somewhere else for a second one. Go back to the second one there if and when the first fizzles.

But, I think if you go for both you are also asking a timing question on these two, and, in general how to juggle two or more. That’s a hell of a lot more complicated.

The gurus will tell you don’t see them that much, once a week, don’t call more than 2x a week. That seems just too pat and formulaic to me. I wonder sometimes if those gurus really do the things they say because I have not been able to keep any relationship on a “formula” like this. Maybe these are ideals or goals but they sure aint real most of the time.

The goal with the infrequency is to not allow yourself to be sucked into their reality and focus on any one too much.
 

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I would just go for the best out of the two for now...

If these two know each other, there is a chance you could end up with none of them if your playing both together. It could blow up bigtime.

At Least this way, if it does not work out with one of them, you can always wait until the dust settles and try with the other.

if she likes you enough then she will give you a chance..

If your sure they both like you then you cant lose..

Mindtrust
 

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Ooh,..the single mommy is out. Sarge the 24 y.o. only.
 

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yeah go for the young one. If it doesn't work, I'd try to fukk the single mommy, but with a condom. And pull out.
 

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speed dawg said:
yeah go for the young one. If it doesn't work, I'd try to fukk the single mommy, but with a condom. And pull out.
Wear a condom regardless of who you choose; either one could be infected or become pregnant.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Yeah, but I'd put the condom on 2nd.
:crackup:

I was thinking the exact same thing! Like, dude standing there with his wang hanging out, "How you doing today? Great, let's go use this thing."

Talk about "sexual state".
 

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Ask them both out realizing that at some point you are going to have to choose if it starts getting serious.
 
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