What do you consider relationship material these days?

[Warrior74]

I have my own critiera, but I'm curious as to what you guys consider relationship material these days. What qualifies a woman in your eyes? What exactly are you looking for? Do you know? Are you even looking at all?

 

[Jitterbug]

Physical attraction aside:

- Has a physically active lifestyle.
- Can cook.
- Is kind & caring to people she doesn't have to kiss ass.
- Doesn't need a council of girlfriends to vote on every decision in her life.

Most women I meet fail the 2nd one (they can't cook). The few who can failed one of the last two (usually the last one).

 

[jophil28]

Physical attraction aside:

- Has a physically active lifestyle.
- Can cook.
- Is kind & caring to people she doesn't have to kiss ass.
- Doesn't need a council of girlfriends to vote on every decision in her life.

Most women I meet fail the 2nd one (they can't cook). The few who can failed one of the last two (usually the last one).

I want to expand #4. Most women fail this one miserably. Also is your LTR candidate willing to place YOU ahead of the gaggle of hens in her life.?
Usually women place their G/fs approval above their committment and involvement with their man.
IN this country (Down Under) we have a culture which has it origins in the English and Irish rural mindset. Men were (and still are) treated like a combination handyman, servant, junior employee, overgrown stupid child, fixer of all things, and general storekeeper or supplier of all goods and services which she is too lazy and incompetent to acquire by herself..


I was discussing this with another old geezer the other day and we tossed around. He said , "Jophil, how long has it been since you noticed a woman displaying DEVOTION to her man."

I replied, " I have a very good memory, but it is not that good."

 

[jophil28]

- Can cook.

MOdern women cannot cook because they have bought into the feminist dogma which says that cooking for a man is subservience.
A second reason is that feminism has further convinced them that they are "entitled" to have whatever they want just because they want it. Ergo they believe that it is their "right" to be wined and dined by men as his "payment" for her time and attention.

Why would any women bother to learn to cook when she believes this crap.

 

[Colossus]

At this point in my life I would like to find a girlfriend. I enjoy being single and spinning plates and even doing my own thing without women; but I would rather have a steady. Spinning plates is way for me to experience many different women so I know what I want and DONT want.

I consider myself somewhat 'unique' in terms of personality; that is, there arent a lot of women who I can tolerate much less who are on the same mental wavelength.

In general terms:

-Humility
-Kindness
-A 'sweet' demeanor
-Introverted personality
-Intelligence and insight
-Likes to cook
-Feminine but not 'girly' in the western sense
-Not overly influenced by friends
-Physically active
-Purity. I know guys will jump all over this one but there is a certain "it" to a woman who hasnt been used and abused in life.
-DEVOTION (i had to add that after i read your post, Jophil)

 

[STR8UP]

1) Compatible personality
2) Physically attractive
3) Embraces her femininity
4) Can fukk me as good as I fukk her

Unfortunately, #1 weeds out about 40%. Add #2 and you cut out about 75%. Out of the remaining 25% I would say that 20% of them are "feminine" women".

That leaves about 5% of the population to pass the final test. Good luck ladies, that bar is set HIGH.

 

[betterthandead]

OOOOhhh haha, I love this one. Usually when a girl starts parading me in front of her "friends" instead of putting on a fake smile and doing something entertaining for them to seek their approval I just walk out the room and think long and hard about relationships whether it will SERVE ME or SERVE THE GIRL. I want the relationship to serve me, not the other way around.

A guy would be willing to go through ****ing hell to get some vagina, but if he had to seek "approval" from birds, **** that ****.

Physical attraction aside:

- Doesn't need a council of girlfriends to vote on every decision in her life.

Most women I meet fail the 2nd one (they can't cook). The few who can failed one of the last two (usually the last one).

 

[Jitterbug]

Yeah, one woman alone is impossible to please. Several of them? Fvck it!

You'd hardly find a man who is so up himself that he would tell his mate whom he should or should not date.

And those women like to call themselves "independent"... Hah!

The cooking thing is an old school wisdom I learned from older men in my family. Women know the other side of that coin: the true way to a man's heart is through his stomach. But they're so spoilt now that they don't give a toss.

I don't expect a woman to cook for me all the time, just the fact that she can cook and is willing to care for her man by cooking him a nice meal often enough. It says more about her character than anything else. My dad is a terrific cook, my mum's a chef and I'm pretty good in the kitchen myself.

I'd drop some standards for dating & screwing around but there'd be no relationship without all of those 4.

I thought I was very easy-going with what I'm asking for, but some women have told me that I'm way too picky.

You know how women often b!tch that men judge them too much on looks? They should be thankful for that. If more men judge women by other qualities than looks, they'll be screwed (and not in a good way at all)!

MOdern women cannot cook because they have bought into the feminist dogma which says that cooking for a man is subservience.
A second reason is that feminism has further convinced them that they are "entitled" to have whatever they want just because they want it. Ergo they believe that it is their "right" to be wined and dined by men as his "payment" for her time and attention.

Why would any women bother to learn to cook when she believes this crap.

Yup. Many girls I've dated are (unsurprisingly) very knowledgable about places to eat, but know bugger all what to do in the kitchen.

I used to pay no attention to this when I was younger, but interestingly, my mother (quite old-fashioned) kept bringing it up and complaining how young women these days can't cook to save their arses and they won't be able to have a happy marriage.

 

[3countriesPlan]

I used to like HOT SLUTTISH types...
but now I actually am looking more for a cute, intelligent girl with a good temper , and who can suck cokk like an oakland hor after she cooks me some spaghetti. She should dress somewhat conservatively, not be a feminzai, get along with my family, and regularly beg me to nail her.

 

[MR_PERFECT]

I can't think of everything I want, but I can name the things that ended the closest relationships I've had. I had to make my list this way because there are things I've always taken for granted, like a woman that can cook.

- Hung up on previous guy
- A verbal "low blow" that went too far
- Lying
- Lesbian tendencies
- General Intelligence
- Weight gain
- Fits of extreme anger
- "You don't have to wear a condom, you can finish inside... No, I'm not on the pill"
- Moody

 

[classy broadside]

Colossus' list is pretty exhaustive and includes most of mine as well. I just have a few things to add.

- Emotionally stable
- Compromising and caring nature
- Physically fit, no physical or psychological diseases, no bad genes (i.e. family has history of Alzheimer's)
- Decent looking
- Intelligent, can read/write well
- Loyal and dedicated
- Family-oriented
- Can handle home economics (home finances, housekeeping, etc.)
- Not materialistic, not a big spender
- No drugs (illegal, prescription, etc.), drinking, smoking
- Mother looks good for her age
- Father is in picture and raised her right
- No tattoos or excessive makeup/jewelry/flashy clothes, etc.
- No or very limited sexual history

When I look at everyone's lists, a dichotomy stands out. There are those looking for family-oriented relationship types (like myself), and there are those looking for sexually exciting relationships with less focus on specific family-oriented traits.

But in the end, we're all socially and genetically family-oriented. So a family-oriented list represents a better long-term and strategic view.

Looking at the family-oriented lists too, surely we're not asking for much. It's only that NorAm women have strayed so much into feminist/pop culture land, they've become nothing more than the shallow, materialistic dolls that they see on TV.

 

[Colossus]

I can't think of everything I want, but I can name the things that ended the closest relationships I've had. I had to make my list this way because there are things I've always taken for granted, like a woman that can cook.

- Hung up on previous guy
- A verbal "low blow" that went too far
- Lying
- Lesbian tendencies
- General Intelligence
- Weight gain
- Fits of extreme anger
- "You don't have to wear a condom, you can finish inside... No, I'm not on the pill"
- Moody

Sometimes it's better to make a list of things you DONT want rather than do want. I concur with all of these and i'll add a few:

-Poor communication/correspondence skills
-Multiple flakes
-Dysfunctional family life (huge)
-Bisexuality. Not as cool as it sounds.
-Significant personality differences (intoversion/extroversion, etc.)
-Core value differences
-Body mods. Piercings in weird places, multiple tattoos, etc. They have other issues, guranteed.
-A dubious past. Guys do a lot of dumbas$ stuff when they are young. I sure did. Anytime you get a bunch of agressive, testosterone-pumped high schoolers together and throw beer into the equation, something bad is bound to happen. But most of us grow out of it and become responsible. Women, I've found, who have criminal acts, cheating, and weird sex stuff in their past tend to be bad apples. Totally a double-standard but it's just MHO.

I dated this girl for a couple months who had a lot of tattoos. I asked her about one in particular, on her waistline, that had 2 big nails crossed over some symbol. She said when she was in college she dismantled someone's car with a nailgun. She had a brand, too, and everything was pierced at some point. I dont know what I was thinking.

 

[betterthandead]

yeah same here, good to know there are still men out there that like REAL women, not some weird androgynous/husky/bisexual types.

- Lesbian tendencies
-

 

[betterthandead]

Keep those lists coming, it's always good to have a list rather than just bumping into a random woman and thinking she's A+++, if you have a list in mind you just filter out the girls that are useless.

Here's my list:

1. Mature - Emotionally/Intellectually
2. Does not talk or think like me (I tend to look/sound serious)
3. Emotional/Affectionate/ Artistic
4. Has actual interests that do not involve domestic duties/home
5. Healthy/Fit
6. Not under 5' 3" or over 5' 7"
7. Lives by herself/room-mate
8. Has own car, if not she better have great communication skills
9. Is not materialistic and flexible/considerable in thought
10. Sex every day if possible

 

[classy broadside]

Side note:

I'm in class today and the topic of a whether a feminist lady was sane/insane for willing her entire estate to the National Women's Party back in the 1950s. The court involved decided that she was insane (because of other factors as well).

The teacher attacked the court's reasoning and rhetorically asked some guy whether it was "normal to not like men if you're a woman" and "normal to want to have kids without men"? Everyone in class giggled even as I sat in silent horror. What's he supposed to say, "no" and get on the sh|t list of every girl and p^ssied out guy there? Or "yes, it's normal" and choke? He beat around the bush and gagged out a "yes, I suppose it's normal".

I bet that the vast majority, if not all of the girls in the class were rooting for the dead lady and against the court's decision. So it would only seem that the lists we write here would partially apply to a very small minority of NorAm women out there, and fewer still would quality for most of these qualities we list.

 

[jophil28]

I would add this -
A generous, giving woman .

You will never be happy with a mean-spirited taker.

She should be doing things for you. Buying you gifts ( it IS the thought that matters,not the $), being willing to help you pick up your place, cooks and provides for your physical needs and is willing to run errands.
One of my tests is to ask her to sew a button on a shirt for me. Watch for her reaction. It varies from mocking laughter to an eager wiilingness to take that shirt home with her, fix the button and return it to me.
I always remind myself that a woman joins MY life and I need to be pleased to have her around for a myriad reasons.

Then again I am old school. I think Sarah P is HOT.

 

[cedd]

- physically attractive with a great personality
- try to understand ME and my lifestyle.
- don't try to change ME and my lifestyle.
- good sex
- no emotional baggages. Stable family.
- generous in her time. Caring.
- can cook
- make me laugh and confortable
- like to travel

cheers

 

[wjh]

Sadness.

Indeed.

 

[STR8UP]

I just had to post this.


In my health class we were talking about what we wanted in a marriage material person.


I'm talkative,give my opinion a lot, and share jokes, so the teacher is friendly with me and asked my opinion after asking the question.


So already having pondered this, I say without hesitation,


She has to be

family orientated, meaning family first

If I make enough in the future, she has to be a stay at home mom

Same shared value

She has to know how to cook

She wants to bear as many children that we can, keeping in mind of our lifestyle and financial situations



By the time I was going to get into a bit of the smaller things; beautiful, funny, communicative, and a REAL women.

Some of the guys started to laugh, but MOST of the girls started to say

WTF
UH UH
Your out of your mind

And other ludicrous comments. It just really surprised me. The teacher also commented that I may believe that because I was born and raised outside of the United States. And that they have different opinions of what a wife is suppose to be here.


Sadness.

It's funny how women get their panties in a bunch at the mere mention of a more "traditional" family setting. Sadness INDEED.

It's like women think that if they don't choose to act like a man that they are automatically doomed to a life of servitude.

What is a wife supposed to be? PART OF A TEAM. Two people working toward common goals (raising children, building a home, complimenting each others inherent strengths and weaknesses).

But NOOOOOO......with women today it's all about ME ME ME.

This is why I am 37 and SINGLE.

 

[Vulpine]

Quirks, even.

Bots, even.

*adds to ignore list*