"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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what do i do with her.

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ok. you all know about the girl i'm madly in love with and the hole AFC thing. so we will skip that.

she called me up the other day asking about this guy who works with her and whats his deal. i didn't say much as i had no clue what his deal was and i just could be ****ed getting into that **** so i just changed the subject.

a little bit after we talked about random stuff she called me a bad :" guy friend" ( yes i know that i have no chance with her we have been threw that)

to be honest i feel like i haven't been her " guy friend" in years. granted i want to bone the **** out of her until she bleeds but thats not why i am here. i was thinking about tell her that I'm not her " guy friend" and that she should shove off cos i'm not doing that anymore. after this i was thinking of asking her out properly. ( my guess is she will say no. i will go oh well, and move on for good)

thing is. i know if i do this, i will loose her as a normal friend. i don't think i want that. since i don't have many friends anymore. ( my choice)

what do you think i should do. the best thing would be to just forget about her. i don't think it's that easy
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Packers2010 said:
ok. you all know about the girl i'm madly in love with and the hole AFC thing. so we will skip that.

she called me up the other day asking about this guy who works with her and whats his deal. i didn't say much as i had no clue what his deal was and i just could be ****ed getting into that **** so i just changed the subject.

a little bit after we talked about random stuff she called me a bad :" guy friend" ( yes i know that i have no chance with her we have been threw that)

to be honest i feel like i haven't been her " guy friend" in years. granted i want to bone the **** out of her until she bleeds but thats not why i am here. i was thinking about tell her that I'm not her " guy friend" and that she should shove off cos i'm not doing that anymore. after this i was thinking of asking her out properly. ( my guess is she will say no. i will go oh well, and move on for good)

thing is. i know if i do this, i will loose her as a normal friend. i don't think i want that. since i don't have many friends anymore. ( my choice)

what do you think i should do. the best thing would be to just forget about her. i don't think it's that easy
How many other girls are you currently working on? Right, Zero, correct?

What are you going to get by even wasting your time telling her you are not her friend, etc.? Her saying you are not a good friend, or you are a good friend, or whatever, is her way of telling you she is not into you. She's just asking you about coworker just to let you know she is not interested in you. You will be ok brotherman. You will. Most of us here have gone through situations like yours, and we survived and got better because of it.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
How many other girls are you currently working on? Right, Zero, correct?

What are you going to get by even wasting your time telling her you are not her friend, etc.? Her saying you are not a good friend, or you are a good friend, or whatever, is her way of telling you she is not into you. She's just asking you about coworker just to let you know she is not interested in you. You will be ok brotherman. You will. Most of us here have gone through situations like yours, and we survived and got better because of it.
ok this is what wanted to know. i totally get it now. even tho my stupid ass wont listen to it.

well. for other girls. i did join a dating site, but no luck there. plus i don't get out much. my own fault. need to save money
 

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Packers2010 said:
i will loose her as a normal friend. i don't think i want that. since i don't have many friends anymore. ( my choice)
Stop making stupid choices. And stupid excuses!
You know your situation already, and you know what you SHOULD do.

You now need proper motivation! Browse through this forum, see if anything strikes you. Take a walk in the park, think about what kind of man you want to become. Think about what you want to do before you die (get laid). Watch a James Bond movie. Then do what you have to do.

P.S.: even as a friend, you will not "keep" her for long. she already knows that you want her but don't have the guts to do anything. what kind of friendship would that be, where she knows you're a pushover?
 

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Huffman said:
Stop making stupid choices. And stupid excuses!
You know your situation already, and you know what you SHOULD do.

You now need proper motivation! Browse through this forum, see if anything strikes you. Take a walk in the park, think about what kind of man you want to become. Think about what you want to do before you die (get laid). Watch a James Bond movie. Then do what you have to do.

P.S.: even as a friend, you will not "keep" her for long. she already knows that you want her but don't have the guts to do anything. what kind of friendship would that be, where she knows you're a pushover?
well we been friends for like 6 years now. so.

i get what you are saying. but what i want to know is how to go from what i have now. to not a pushover. something has to give and when it gives way. someone has to fall
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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put it this way.

i know i don't want to be a push over in my head. i just always turn out that way.

i know what i want out of life but i have no idea how to get there. i think maybe i should do camping?
 

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The first thing you should do: cut all ties with her.
 

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Packers2010 said:
lol how is this going to help.

she will be confused as ****
I'm going to be harsh with you - not because I dislike you as a person - but because I'm tired of reading about this stupid situation.

Firstly, who gives a f*** about how confused she will be? You're not too bright are ya? It's not about her. You should cut ties with her because you want something from her that she's not giving you. You want to have an active sex life? You want to get the women you want, and live the life you want? Well here comes the sacrifice. You have to cut ties with people who aren't taking you down the path you wish to go. Sure it hurts, but that's life. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it.

How do you stop being a pushover? First, you look at the way you've been living. Then you admit to yourself, "Wow. I really was an unambitious, weak, small town, hayseed chump." Then you let go of that past and begin molding yourself into the man you want to become.

You want the best of both worlds....you want to come on this site, ask for advice on the SAME GIRL, but you also want to pretend that you're interested in bettering yourself as a whole. Wrong. You can have it one way or the other way. You can have your fantasy world where this girl, who hasn't liked you for 6 years, will one day become interested in you. Or you can have reality - where if you put in some work, and suffer some ups and downs, you'll become a better, stronger man. Right now you want the easy way out. You want your happy little dreamland where this chick magically starts liking you...that's your security blanket. And I think that's because you see the mountain you need to climb in regards to bettering yourself and you'd rather not put in the work.
 
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