What do females actually need from me?

[Macaframalama]

Damn you're tough.

Richard, coming from you, I will take that as a compliment.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Richard, coming from you, I will take that as a compliment.

I don't get it.

 

[machoMax]

Emotional gratification, sexual gratification, financial gratification. Either a combination or all of the above to varying degrees.

That is "ideal" combination....

 

[ohrein]

Emotional connection above all else. All the common masculine traits feed into this. Confidence is safety and leadership. Humor is joy. Sex is intimacy. All these things make a woman feel for a guy. As men we tend to view these things at a surface level, as pragmatic solutions to problems. Women view things as an interconnected web, and how it all relates to each other. But the central theme is how it makes a woman feel. My girlfriend recently said to me "I like missing you.". Ten years ago that statement would have confused the hell out of me. This time I was like, that is a classic female thing to think. The male mind says but you miss me, therefore you want to see me, therefore you should see me. But the female mind sees them as connected. The feeling of missing someone is connected to the good feelings of being with someone.

This rant went a bit off on a tangent but hopefully the core message is there.

 

[corrector]

Wow. This guy is never going to be happy. If he visited 200-300 escorts, bought a LAMBO, got a bionic d1ck, posted his sexual conquests and is still asking how he can get a woman to like him, then at least people will know how to save their hard earned money and not make the same mistakes that this poster has made and waste money like that. At the end of the day, no matter how many escorts you see, or what you do, you'll still want to go to Turkey to get your shins broken to attract a girl, or wonder what you need for women to authentic like you and not treat you like sh1t? This is all crazy.

 

[Macaframalama]

Emotional connection above all else.

I wouldn't say any one is more important, than the others. Surprisingly, women have the need to "just bust a nut", without the intention of the hook-up going anywhere emotionally, just like men do, UNTIL, she meets the qualified man. Sure, there has to be the emotion of joy or fun, but often times it doesn't take much more, than that and sheer physical attraction, which would fall under sexual gratification. A man who can appeal to all of her needs will be a much more, well-rounded and valuable man to all women. This is not to be confused with tricking yourself off and getting used up. She should be investing, in you, from these three categories herself, wether you need her resources or not and in turn, rewarding her by gratifying her needs. Turning passion into purpose. A well nurtured tree, will be a healthier tree and in turn, bear a more nutritious fruit for you to consume, rather one that is always picked from and never watered, fertilized, manicured and all but dead. Women will love you for this and will find it hard to want to leave. I know this for a certainty.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Dyck. You only need bothering by those who want your dyck.

 

[ohrein]

I wouldn't say any one is more important, than the others. Surprisingly, women have the need to "just bust a nut", without the intention of the hook-up going anywhere emotionally, just like men do, UNTIL, she meets the qualified man. Sure, there has to be the emotion of joy or fun, but often times it doesn't take much more, than that and sheer physical attraction, which would fall under sexual gratification. A man who can appeal to all of her needs will be a much more, well-rounded and valuable man to all women. This is not to be confused with tricking yourself off and getting used up. She should be investing, in you, from these three categories herself, wether you need her resources or not and in turn, rewarding her by gratifying her needs. Turning passion into purpose. A well nurtured tree, will be a healthier tree and in turn, bear a more nutritious fruit for you to consume, rather one that is always picked from and never watered, fertilized, manicured and all but dead. Women will love you for this and will find it hard to want to leave. I know this for a certainty.

That's still an emotional response. I guess connection was the wrong word to use, although I think connection applies for anything past a one night stand. But a woman fvcking an alpha is still giving her an emotional high, being reckless, being slutty etc etc. Makes her feel alive.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

All people, regardless of sex, have a longing to belong. The problem is that today our dominant narrative runs contrary to this... everyone is running after freedom. Quite sad really.

 

[Macaframalama]

That's still an emotional response. I guess connection was the wrong word to use, although I think connection applies for anything past a one night stand. But a woman fvcking an alpha is still giving her an emotional high, being reckless, being slutty etc etc. Makes her feel alive.

Reckless and slutty aren't emotions. It's still primarily sexual gratification.

 

[Murk]

I'm not gonna start a new thread but i need some advice.

I had sex with a girl friday/saturday who I'd been on 2 previous dates with within 6 days.

Now over the weekend I kind of got her out by 11am with a fake family member coming over. I went back to sleep and went out in the night to party with my friends, didn't get home until 1/2pm the next day (Sunday).

We spoke last night on the phone, after 20-25 minutes I was like I'm gonna go I want to chill... she starts moaning, "why do you have to go" I said I'm not much of a phone or text person, she said "yeah I noticed that as you don't text me during the day so I am in a grey area".

I told this girl I will not be texting during work hours, just like my ex gf, they agree but seem to have an issue with it. Why the fvck do I have to text/talk every day? I called her needy, she got a bit pissed off.

Today she is wanting to call me on my lunch break.

Why do girls never listen when you want to keep texting/calling to a minimum? Shall I just ignore them from now on.

 

[Murk]

Gave her a 5 min convo and wrapped it up, she just sounded happy to speak to me. How on earth is this girl so sprung in a week. She wants to come over tonight to bang but hand on heart I can't be bothered I want to go home, eat, shower, relax then sleep.

 

[zekko]

Eventually, they want a man who can be all of these things, indefinitely if possible.

Eventually, what most women will want from a man is children. It's literally what they're designed for.
There are exceptions, like everything else. But most women will not feel fulfilled without children, and that is the ultimate goal that they push toward.

 

[Spinach]

Richard having children is a frightening proposition in so many ways....

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Richard having children is a frightening proposition in so many ways....

And what makes you so special, stranger?

I love how people on here get to talk sh1t about me all day long...

I'd make a better father than you.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

But Richard, we all "know" you. You gave us this in your 4,394 posts. Lets see, qualifications for your fatherhood include, alcohol abuse, ex con, stalker, angry little man, hates women, hates himself and is constantly deforming his body to seek female approval, lives pretty much off of daddy's money, hires escorts and prostitutes, thinks he superior to all on this board, argumentative and insecure, has fantasies about having a million dollar business.... Besides Richard, how are you going to put a car seat in your mythical Lambo?

Quit talking to me.

I'm very busy.

It's also funny that I have no idea who you are, yet you think you know me.

 

[ohrein]

Reckless and slutty aren't emotions. It's still primarily sexual gratification.

No, no. Being reckless and slutty feeds her emotionally. Sexual gratification is still tied to emotional response, just not necessarily sweet loving intimacy. Does that make sense? I think I'm explaining my view poorly.

 

[Macaframalama]

No, no. Being reckless and slutty feeds her emotionally. Sexual gratification is still tied to emotional response, just not necessarily sweet loving intimacy. Does that make sense? I think I'm explaining my view poorly.

Yea, agree. Nothing is rarely ever completely black and white, cut and dry. The majority of my lays have been ONS or FWB and I've actually had this conversation with more than a few, because when I was just starting out, I was losing girls by trying to appeal to their emotions, trying to make emotional connections, etc, with women that had no intentions of that, whatsoever. My ex wife actually put me on this by asking what I was wanting out of it. I said "a piece of pvssy". She said... '''Ok, like how all you want is a piece of pvssy, sometimes a girl just wants some d!ck." Mind blown and in my paranoia I thought she just might have not wanted me making emotional connections with other women, so it was the subject of quite a bit of pillow talk for awhile with randoms and FWB's. It was also the turning point in the refinement of my brazen approach to night game. If someone saying "I just want to go out partying and get laid tonight" (primary objective) I categorize under sexual gratification if nothing more, than for the sake of not muddying up the message in semantics, because that rabbit hole goes deep. Rape fantasy, voyeurism, exhibitionism, etc. It's like an onion, with it's many layers and the simple act of sex can be parlayed into coaxing emotional investment out of her by appealing to her fantasies, if she even knows what her fantasies are in the first place. Most ppl simply don't know what they want, nor how to give/get it, much less the emotional intelligence to convey it. Blame this on religion or social indoctrination or whatever, but I've seen this quite a bit over the years, even in myself recently in my last LTR with her BD$M (BD$M was actually just now censored, so you see how ridiculous society views fetish and fantasy) fetish. The ability to appeal/uncover these desires and actually parlay them into emotional investment, ultimately determines effectiveness (good lover/poor lover) (adequate suitor/inadequate suitor) and is just one way out of many.

 

[zekko]

(BD$M was actually just now censored, so you see how ridiculous society views fetish and fantasy)

BD$M is censored on a seduction forum?

 

[Macaframalama]

BD$M is censored on a seduction forum?

Yup. ****.