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What could I have done to get a number in this scenario?

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I live a 10 minute bike ride from the Michael Jackson family compound. I often ride past the area just get exercise but today decided just to ride by their house and see what was going on. There were of course media everywhere and a bunch of fans and people taking pictures and leaving memorial things. As well as a bunch of hotties walking around. I think I'm going to go back everyday to the Jackson house just to see if there's any girls to hit up.

Then I saw this one girl out of nowhere. BAM. Oh my god what she hot. My exact type. Looked like a Brazilian girl straight up. Golden bronze complexion, perfect hip to waist ratio, nice thick ass and legs that her daisy dukes were showing off nicely, perky breasts, and long wavy brown hair that was naturally sun-bleached at the ends. I'd guess the chick was 20-25 years old. She was with an older woman who may have been her mother. Her "mother" took a photo of her next memorial stuff. Only thing I could think of doing at that moment just to open my mouth was offering to take a photo of both of them together. They both said thank you and the mom says, "that's very nice of you". I had no idea how to continue anything from there. I just froze up and couldn't think of anything to say beyond "you're welcome" before they walked away.

I'm trying to think back and figure out what I might have been able to do different and I'm still drawing a blank. Hot girl, perfectly your physical type, but is with someone who might be her mom. Is that doable?
 
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Haha, Had a very similar thing in thge bootcamp i'm doing. Assignment was to chat people up. Saw some tourists (in orlando, if you can imagine) and opened with the same, would you like me to take a pic. Next was, oh where are you from (or are you local?) etc. Chat them up.

I'm sure closing her would be easier if you were talking. As for the mother next to her, I think that would take more balls then I have right now, but I'd say its totally possible.
 
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anything is doable, maybe you could had offered the mom to take a pic of you and her daughter and than say the pic is cute and offer your number and continue ur day..i just thought of this ,simple things like this work for me
 

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Don't EVER let a woman's look kill your concentration and confidence man.

Fool yourself into thinking of her as a spoiled little girl in a better than average body.

What you should've done was TALK about MJ with HER.

Then, you could've asked for her e-mail or number to stay in touch and meet up later on.
 

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You guys are completely right. I still haven't gotten past approach anxiety. I'm guess I'm going to have to do the bootcamp.
 

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I can understand being at a loss for words and freezing up. That happens. But other than that there's a million things you could've said. Saying something even if it's not all super smooth is better than saying nothing besides a few social formalities. Thinking you have to be all witty and smooth is a recipe for freezing up. What I do is make situational comments. You have the MJ topic right there to comment on. "So you're a big MJ fan too (commonality)..Yeah it's totally shocking that he's gone..are you from the area.." It's just to get the ball rolling and see what happens. If you look to the situation something to say will always come to you.
 

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speakeasy said:
I live a 10 minute bike ride from the Michael Jackson family compound. I often ride past the area just get exercise but today decided just to ride by their house and see what was going on. There were of course media everywhere and a bunch of fans and people taking pictures and leaving memorial things. As well as a bunch of hotties walking around. I think I'm going to go back everyday to the Jackson house just to see if there's any girls to hit up.

Hot girls to pick up? Dude if you live that close to the greatest entertainer ever, you should be in awe and paying some respect.


Then I saw this one girl out of nowhere. BAM. Oh my god what she hot. My exact type. Looked like a Brazilian girl straight up. Golden bronze complexion, perfect hip to waist ratio, nice thick ass and legs that her daisy dukes were showing off nicely, perky breasts, and long wavy brown hair that was naturally sun-bleached at the ends. I'd guess the chick was 20-25 years old. She was with an older woman who may have been her mother. Her "mother" took a photo of her next memorial stuff. Only thing I could think of doing at that moment just to open my mouth was offering to take a photo of both of them together. They both said thank you and the mom says, "that's very nice of you". I had no idea how to continue anything from there. I just froze up and couldn't think of anything to say beyond "you're welcome" before they walked away.

I'm trying to think back and figure out what I might have been able to do different and I'm still drawing a blank. Hot girl, perfectly your physical type, but is with someone who might be her mom. Is that doable?
Speakeasy: Would you like to take a photo together?
Daughter: That's very nice of you
Speakaway: Do you want to go back to my place? I want to be starting something.


Dude, of course its doable. It all depends how smart you are. The smarter you are, the easier it is to pick her up. How about you talk about Michael? How about you ask if she's from the area? How about you ask what she does? How about you offer to take them for some ice cream and talk about music?

It all depends how smart you are.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
Speakeasy: Would you like to take a photo together?
Daughter: That's very nice of you
Speakaway: Do you want to go back to my place? I want to be starting something.
LMAO!


Dude, of course its doable. It all depends how smart you are. The smarter you are, the easier it is to pick her up. How about you talk about Michael? How about you ask if she's from the area? How about you ask what she does? How about you offer to take them for some ice cream and talk about music?

It all depends how smart you are.

When I say doable, I mean more in the sense of trying to pick up a chic who is with her mom. I mean not that the mom is going to club me over the head if I hit on her daughter, but that having a parent standing there makes it a LOT more pressure in what you say. Most guys would just discount a girl altogether if she's standing next to a mother or father, as if it's something wrong to do. But I guess if you game is tight and your bold, it can be done. Though I'm not sure if I'd ever try picking up a girl who is standing next to her father.
 
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