"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What can I learn from Sosuave?

B-Lemond

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It's been a few months since I've been on this forum. For some reason, I haven't learned ANYTHING. Everything I learned was from sosuave.com and the DJ newsletters. I've been reading posts and what not but nothing is really learned from sosuave.net. Sosuave.net, and I just come to realize, is nothing but a waste of time where nothing is learned.

What can I learn from Sosuave.net?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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See that link at the top that says The DJ Bible?

Aside from that...I think coming on here keeps you focused on your goals. At least thats what it does for me.
 

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strange.

Maybe because there areso many different techniques and opinions, and lots of them are contradictory and you get confused.
 

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WOW! Why don't you tell me something I don't know? The DJ Bible doesn't say anything new. I already know the info. It's basically everything from the main site told in someone else's words.
 

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nobodys making you post here. Stop wasting your time complaining and go meet some girls.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by change
nobodys making you post here. Stop wasting your time complaining and go meet some girls.
What the ****'s your problem? He's asking for help. Don't tear into him like that.

I'd take a look at some of the older posts. A lot of the new stuff is basically watered down. Here is a link to one of the original copies of the bible. It's a LOT better than the one up now.

http://sosuave.com/bible/bible.htm

The best advice I can give is try what you read here and if it doesn't work go onto the next thing (make an honest effort though). You won't learn anything from not trying... lol it's a "hands on" course.

Best of luck.
 

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Make no mistake, 99% of what you learn will be intuitive knowledge that can not be putinto words on the internet really. What forums like this are best for is motivation, perhaps offering advice and helping people think outside the box, or outside the matrix in this case.

Also, you can gain by teaching others. Sometimes I offer advice that has helped me in the past, someone will use it, and it works for them and not only that they learn something that I didn't even consider before hand.

So forums have value, but they are NOTHING compared to being in the field relating to women.

I read a book along time ago, called the 4th way. It is a book about self actualization. One of the main ideas is that the words used to teach something can mean nothing to some people and EVERYTHING to others. And also that the words can mean different things at different points in one peron's life.

So perhaps rereading things on here after a certain amount of time and sitance will shed new light on old passages.

Regards,
 

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bluelemond quit being a *****...lol im jk man! u do have a point
 

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I'd have to agree with you, it's difficult
to get good advice here because it's inconsistent and noone can see a poster's situation with great clarity. It helps to get support from other people though.
The secret I think is that there that is no single method or approach that works (as the site supporters would have you believe) because women are people and people can be quite different and situations quite complex.
 

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holy crap. ive been here for nearly a year and i didnt even know sosuave.com existed! :eek:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Re: Re: What can I learn from Sosuave?

Originally posted by 007~JC
You will continue to learn nothing until you apply what this site has. Get in the field now.

exactly. 80% experience, 20% reading.

i.e., take the time you spend on this site, reading/posting, multiply that by 4, and that is at least how much time you need to be out, getting experience.

the most learning is done in the field. if you don't fail, you'll never truly succeed.

now, go out there and fail, get rejected, and then you will truly learn!

one tip...if you think you have the balls, or want to test them, make an approach journal...you will learn a whole lot from it. try attempting 100 or so approaches in a few months...i guarantee you will learn from that.

make some goals...what do you want out of this site? where do you want to be, what kind of women do you want to lay, etc...then make a plan to achieve that.

good luck
 

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all the bible is, is experience. Guys mentioning excerpts from what worked for them. Just because it worked for them, doesn't mean it'll work for everyone. But it DOES teach an important lesson, that you can read about experiences and theories all you like, but they'll all be wrong until you prove them right.

Obviously if we knew we were doing something wrong, we would fix it. If our brains new how to do it right, well then we wouldn't be doing it wrong anymore now would we? Only we don't know how to do it right until we do it over and over again, until we get it right. That's what you can learn from SoSuave, learn what you can and keep trying until you get it right. Each failure is only one step closer to success.
 

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Originally posted by Sicarius
460 posts and you havent learned anything?
probably like others on the forum who just read the stuff and make posts like they know what they're talking about.
 

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Originally posted by MixMaxster
probably like others on the forum who just read the stuff and make posts like they know what they're talking about.
have you ever read one of this guys post or threads....trust me, he does know what hes talking about! and yea 460...and now relizing what has he learned in that time?
 

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The more time you spend in the field the field getting rejected & doing sets the better you'll get. I like the idea of a pu journal. That way you can analize what you did wrong. Also, get a wingman and analize the pickup. Have him watch you and go over it afterward.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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