Not necessarily. Just because a girl doesn't find you attractive initially, it doesn't mean that her opinion can't change. It's also human nature to be attracted to what we can't have. So if the goodlooking guy acts AFC, his chances with the girl become non-existent. If the not-so-goodlooking guy plays it cool, the girl might take a liking to him.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
What can good-looks do that a personality can not?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
The fun thing about life for me is that I can actually suceed in studying about the influences and the people surroundings. It's easy at first and then it becomes harder as the self-questioning goes further.
From what I learned, It all depends on the woman. Plus, you need to be the wanting with the styles and attitude. You do need some looks but looks isn't the only way. Even though some women might say that looks matter to them, it won't.
From what I learned, It all depends on the woman. Plus, you need to be the wanting with the styles and attitude. You do need some looks but looks isn't the only way. Even though some women might say that looks matter to them, it won't.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Sorry try http://www.ukmenforwomen.com
elvis aint dead yet
Senior Don Juan
It comes down to a simple truth about looks.
If you never get in the door, it doesn't matter how great of a person u are.
ANd it's obvious most people here have never been to a club or are too young to go to one.
That is where Many twenty somethings hang and wind up hooking up with hot chics.
In a good club, u can't hear yourself, let alone somebody else. So showing off ur personality aint ever gonna work. they can't hear it.
WHile u can improve and become a better person, if u never get in the door, aint gonna matter how great of a person u are.
and the theory that, "WOMEN DONT GO BY LOOKS, sometimes they dont even like the way u look at first and then one day they do."
Thats great if your still in high school or college or live in a town with about 500 people. Yeah anything is possible because u see that person every day.
But in most of the real world, you aint gonna get a second SHOT at seeing that chic you liked. So your first impression is basically the last impression. Either your gonna talk to her or your gonna be chicken and either she's gonna like you or she's not. Its plain and simple.
As u get older some things change, but there is a reason why many OLDER MEN and OLDER WOMEN these days are dating younger people. Its about youth, it's about beauty and it's about looks.
There are other reasons, but what it comes down to is a simple fact. YOu can improve yourself to the millionith degree, but if you dont even get in the door with that chic, you aint got a shot to let ur personality shine.
If you never get in the door, it doesn't matter how great of a person u are.
ANd it's obvious most people here have never been to a club or are too young to go to one.
That is where Many twenty somethings hang and wind up hooking up with hot chics.
In a good club, u can't hear yourself, let alone somebody else. So showing off ur personality aint ever gonna work. they can't hear it.
WHile u can improve and become a better person, if u never get in the door, aint gonna matter how great of a person u are.
and the theory that, "WOMEN DONT GO BY LOOKS, sometimes they dont even like the way u look at first and then one day they do."
Thats great if your still in high school or college or live in a town with about 500 people. Yeah anything is possible because u see that person every day.
But in most of the real world, you aint gonna get a second SHOT at seeing that chic you liked. So your first impression is basically the last impression. Either your gonna talk to her or your gonna be chicken and either she's gonna like you or she's not. Its plain and simple.
As u get older some things change, but there is a reason why many OLDER MEN and OLDER WOMEN these days are dating younger people. Its about youth, it's about beauty and it's about looks.
There are other reasons, but what it comes down to is a simple fact. YOu can improve yourself to the millionith degree, but if you dont even get in the door with that chic, you aint got a shot to let ur personality shine.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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**** if I looked like those guys I'd pimp myself too.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
it is your own fault because you remain invisible. if you don't want to be invisible, make yourself seen. it can be that simple.
and instead of being all pissy about being invisible, take advantage. now you can observe your prey. the observer is most of the time much more interesting than the star of the show. but it wont help anyone if all of your observations are pissy. stop being a pissant.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
and unless this is the kind of girl you are heartbroken over not giving you a chance, then you should be glad you are not subjected to this attention and flattery. if it is that shallow, then it will just drown you if you wanted something with a little more depth. the prettiest traps work the best. don't fall for it.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
this is really pretty simple guys and dolls.
some women, you can interest them with your looks. soem women you can HAVE any way you want them, because of your LOOKS.
and probaly so can anyone else, with looks better than yours. right, MW?
but hey! there is light, if you are willing to see it. some women are not impressed with looks. some of them may be susceptable to good looks, but that is not what will keep them INTERESTED. it is all about interests.
why are you worried about the girls who only looks matter to? why not the girls who are interested in something a little more substantial or interesting? the girl who is interested in medicine, or history, or spanish architecture, or even YOU. when i say you, i mean you. not your looks, or interests, or habits, or even personality, but the whole collective piece.
why worry about these people who are so shallow and materialistic?
besides, you are what you eat.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Actually all I am really doing is fighting against the gender stereotype that is so black and white.
Men are more looks orientated than Women, but if everyone digs deeper they will realise that you can't make a general stereotype.
I'm not worried about anything, I think I am entiled to freedom of speech on this forum like anyone else (even if they don't like or agree with what I am saying). Have I made that clear for you now Iqqi?
Men are more looks orientated than Women, but if everyone digs deeper they will realise that you can't make a general stereotype.
I'm not worried about anything, I think I am entiled to freedom of speech on this forum like anyone else (even if they don't like or agree with what I am saying). Have I made that clear for you now Iqqi?
It is true that men look for good-looks in women, however in my experience during the years I have noticed that a few guys would date this girl who (in some people's opinion) isn't that good-looking. Though people say that she's dated alot of guys and (I think) dated a few guys at once.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
A few guys? I have see a lot of guys do this!
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No actually it can't.
Women are horrible judges of character and they judge you just by looking. Let me lay this plain: people are always saying on here how women want Alpha Males; well sorry but that’s bull****.
If a woman walks into a bar and sees a regular looking guy and a football player, she will most likely go for the football player (all other things being equal) – at least according to the Alpha Male theory she will. The AM theorists will argue that she wants the football player because he displays the traits of an alpha and can provide and protect her, etc. etc. Of course learning to play football has nothing to do with actually being able to protect her in a physical confrontation. Sure, the football player may look all manly but that “normal” looking guy could be a U.S. Army Ranger.
I have a friend who is a WestPoint grad and Army Ranger, but you wouldn’t know it by looking at him. He looks just like any average guy on the street. You could put Mr. football stud up against my friend, or against a cop or anyone with combat training / experience and the stud will be sh!t kicked six ways from Sunday.
I’m not ignored because I want to be, but because women are horrible judges of character. They don’t want a real alpha, they want pomp and pretence, they want pageantry and ceremony. The jock-stud is the pretender to the alpha throne, if women really wanted alphas then the Delta Force, Rangers, SAS and others like them would have harems following them around. Instead women follow around loser ass drug dealers and no-future jock-studs.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
TyTe`EyEs
Master Don Juan
This has to be the longest thread ever.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.