What can be done when. . .

[WatchMeWalk]

. . .an HB puts up a passive-aggressive "wall" against you before you have even opened your mouth? I'm assuming they would do this if they just don't find a man physically attractive since that is what I do when unattractive girls pursue me. The only tactic I know that has demonstrated some effect against this is NEXTing and parading another HB in front of her as if I was taken. I have already wasted 6 months of my life futilely trying to get past an HB's wall before I found this site. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[cgraz]

hmmm...

I've only seen bit3h shields come up when I started approaching if I did something that merited the bit3h shield going up. Usually you can avoid if it even goes up in the first place, except in rare circumstances.

However if you think a girl has already set up her fortress, then I'd take your idea and slightly expand on it. Distance flirt with her.

Pick another HB, if you can have her be atleast as attractive as the target, if not close, and talk to her. Make sure you are within 10-15 feet of the target facing her. While you're talking to this girl, make eye contact with the target every once in a while and hold it. If you can initiate kino with the girl you're talking to even better. Making her laugh is definately a plus too. Now the target sees that you have value...you're worth more. You've suddenly become more attractive.

Now you can gauge her to see her response. You should've been reading her body language the entire time to know whether or not she's open to an approach. You can throw out tests and check for things like mirroring or body positioning. If she's not open to the approach yet, but seems to be getting there, then go find another HB and do the same thing with her. You're just adding more value to yourself by using social proof and showing this girl you can have any girl you want, you're fun, experienced, and know what you're doing.

Keep the distance flirting up and you should be able to approach soon, assuming she doesn't approach you.

I've used this method at frat parties where I couldn't approach because the girl was surrounded by like 5 guys. Her body language clearly shows she isn't interested, so I'll distance flirt and usually she'll approach me. Works wonders

Cgraz

 

[xblitz44x]

If she doesn't find you attractive and puts up a wall to let you know that - KNOW IT. You CAN'T break into a girls mind and MAKE her like you. Even when you NEXT her and she sees you with another girl then shows you attention. The attention doesn't mean she "became attracted"...it just means that she felt insecure that you found another girl and stopped pursuing her, so now she wants to give you JUST enough attention so that you'll start going after HER again. That way SHE will feel desired again and once you press a liiiiiitle more, she'll SNAP it back again and put up the wall.

Instead of trying to change a person's unconscious mind - figure out YOURSELF and what the problem is that you NEED for everybody to like you. Then go out and find those people who DO already like you and maximize each interaction

 

[b's nuts]

NEG HITS! neg hits are made to take down b!tch shields, but if you aren't very good at them, you could really be fighting an up hill battle. NEG HITTEM

 

[xblitz44x]

B's,

I think that Neg-Hits accomplish the same thing as walking with another girl after you've nexted the target....which is: absolutely nothing.

A neg hit is there to make a girl aware of her insecurities: that's it. If it's "done right" she will see that you don't view her as hot as the rest of the guys, and try to go after you so that you change your mind. This is ALL a ploy for your approval. That's IT. She just wants to feel good knowing that you also feel that she's hot. When she's got the attention she needs she will bail. The challenge becomes "How can I get this guy to like me", not "How can I get this guy to hook up with me." Big difference.

If an attractive guy neg-hits, and gets away with it; the girl might fvck him. But it was for the reason that she was ALREADY attracted to him. Then he brought out an insecurity, she tried to prove her "hotness" to him, and he misinterpreted that as "Yes, she's interested now". Gets laid, then attributes it to the NEG hit. It's all a huge misperception.

-Blitz

 

[WatchMeWalk]

Originally posted by xblitz44x

Instead of trying to change a person's unconscious mind - figure out YOURSELF and what the problem is that you NEED for everybody to like you. Then go out and find those people who DO already like you and maximize each interaction

I don't expect EVERYONE to like me. If I blow it with an HB, I can accept responsibility. I just don't like being dismissed before I have a chance to demonstrate any value. But I guess this what we do to girls all the time.