What Benjamin Franklin said

[Burroughs]

"The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was the prime cause of the revolution." - Benjamin Franklin..

 

[Fatal Jay]

Benjamin Franklin, the same guy who came over here with others who stole the land from the innocent native americans of this country, who also butchered these people and place them in reservations?

How can you get justice, from stolen land - Fatal Jay


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Americans are quick to speak about the fore fathers but must people haven't even read the constitution in article 1 section 2

where it speaks about native americans and blacks (which they called 3/5's of a man), blacks wasn't even considered whole men compared to their white masters.

The truth is American was the bastard offspring of it's mother Europe.

 

[Burroughs]

How can you get justice, from stolen land - Fatal Jay


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that line is by KRS-1 not you... :yes:

 

[Atom Smasher]

Here we go...

 

[goundra]

ALL land is stolen "from the common". The herd doesn't CARE for the land well enough to increase the productivity of said land. If we hadn't evolved private property rights, we'd be in the same bind that they third world is stuck in. Nobody will bother to create an excess (with which to trade and improve their lives) if some thug (gov't or not) is free to just come along and take that excess.

Native Americans had had this country's resources for 10,000 years. What had they done with it? They couldn't even wise up and learn reading., writing, smelting iron, using the WHEEL ferchrissakes, after 100 years or more of SEEING the advantages of such innovations. So, yeah, they got displaced, and billions of people are better off because of that. Or, we could have 99% less population, and all of us sit around and chip out stone tools, and never make any progress at all.

 

[Fatal Jay]

that line is by KRS-1 not you... :yes:

LMAO, SMART MAN.........I ADMIT I STOLE THAT $HIT BRO LMAO

So that means anything of value from the forefathers is null and void? Poison the well much?

Not at all bro.......It's just that as much as I research, the presidents had the right intentions, but they started off f*cked up, how can you speak about being free, and liberal but yet you killed the owners of the land you took, and enslave not only blacks but whites, and native americans also. They left the old world to be free from taxes, but yet killed off the majority of one race, and enslaved another(free labor) then created the constitution for your race, but no other race, if you're not a white male, then you will have to be a true idiot speaking about your constitutional rights, that's the sad hard truth.

All men are created equal........every man who said that owned a slave.

 

[Down Low]

I don't see anything remarkable or incorrect in Franklin's statements. Jews continue as Jews precisely because they refuse to assimilate, and live as detestible foreigners who wipe their azzes on the mores of Western Civilization. And who's to say that Africans, with hundreds of years of deeply-ingrained belief in slavery as the preferred and perhaps the only way of life, were fundamentally incompatible with the duties of citizenship in a frontier democracy? I will not close my mind to that point of view.

After 250 years, this stuff should be :yawn: as uncontroversial as you can get. :yawn:

 

[twentee]

neither God nor any piece of paper gives you rights. GUNS give you rights, or you soon have none. there are ALWAYS those who seek to kill you, enslave you, FORCE you to practice their religion, think as they do, etc. Such people are NEVER stopped by anything but LETHAL force, (or at least, the THREAT of same) To be a realistic threat, you have to be able to kill them, and GET AWAY WITH IT, so that a few of you WILL get to the ones who COUNT (eventually) The "elites" do NOT want to have to sleep while wearing gas masks, travel only in tanks, live only in buried concrete bunkers. Guns are not the only way, to overcome jack booted thugs, and "score" on the jbt's masters, but they are the most prevalent, easy, and most feared way to keep such bastards from getting TOO out of hand. They can't HIRE enough thugs who have the balls and the training to do much, against LOTS of men who (CAN, at least, in a day or so) be armed with silenced, concealable autorifles, who ALSO know how to use poison, fire, infighting, etc, to do the majority of the killing. Without an economy, the thugs can't be paid, and they won't risk death for NOTHING. Without an economy, farmers won''t grow "extra' food, transportation won't run, oil can't be bought or shipped or refined, etc. The economy CAN be stopped, by a very few hundred men, who know how and have the WILL to do what is needed, if things get too far past the tolerable.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

"I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all white men that have lived here must learn and know; that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share in any of the functions of our civilization."

Sounds like a lot of the stuff Abraham Lincoln said about blacks as well.

Abraham Lincoln Quote

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

by:

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:

Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)

Didn't see that in that Spielberg Lincoln love fest, didja?

As far as the Franklin and the Bankers, he was spot on. The colonists were all fully employed and enjoying a humming economy, while the Brits were living in the gutter and sleeping in cardboard boxes.

Then the banks demanded that the colonists (who by then had started using their own money) pay their taxes in specie, which they had to borrow from the banks. This wrecked their economy, and fueled their hatred for British Banks.

Funny how that's not taught in school.

 

[Fatal Jay]

My race (the African American race) praise Lincoln without knowing the facts about him either.

Only reason why he wanted the slaves free in the south, was because the south was profiting so much off the free labor of the slaves, while the north was actually paying their slaves. Lincoln was not trying to have that at all.

It wasn't for the best interest of the slaves to be free, but for the corporations of America in the North who was putting money in Lincoln pockets.

 

[Down Low]

My race (the African American race) praise Lincoln without knowing the facts about him either.

Only reason why he wanted the slaves free in the south, was because the south was profiting so much off the free labor of the slaves, while the north was actually paying their slaves. Lincoln was not trying to have that at all.

It wasn't for the best interest of the slaves to be free, but for the corporations of America in the North who was putting money in Lincoln pockets.

No. First, chattel slaves do get food, housing, etc. They are paid, but in a way that is not obvious. Second, chattel slavery has always been far less profitable than wage slavery. Do you remember the world importance of the South's cotton crop? Well, get ready to have your liberal ideas exploded:

"...the hay crop of the free States is worth considerably more in dollars and cents than all the cotton, tobacco, rice, hay and hemp produced in the fifteen slave States."

Source: The Impending Crisis of the South: How to Meet It by Hinton Rowan Helper

 

[Bokanovsky]

Benjamin Franklin, the same guy who came over here with others who stole the land from the innocent native americans of this country, who also butchered these people and place them in reservations?

Practically every ethnic group in today's world lives on land that, at one point in time, belonged to another ethnic group. In other words, everyone lives on stolen land. Before the arrival of Europeans, Indian tribes were in a state of constant warfare. They were murdering each other and stealing other tribes' lands long before the English showed up. In fact, early European colonists (who were very few in numbers) merely exploited these divisions and played one tribe against another.

You need to start learning your history form history books, not hip hop songs. It will make you a more intelligent person.

 

[FairShake]

The American Indians were also not the first people on the North and South American continents. The oldest skeletons found in the mainland Western hemisphere are all Australian Aborigine and Pacific Islander. Plus some ancient Native American skeletons show European DNA well before the Vikings and Columbus came to the West.

They possibly (probably) stole it in the first place! Such is life...