"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What are your thoughts with online dating?

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Bud_Fox

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What are the best sites?

Are the women on this site lower quality than what you would find offline?

What are the best ways to have success online?

Anyone have any good or bad online experiences to share?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Victory Unlimited

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It's been my observation that success in online dating is based largely on the amount of attention that the women you're interested in is getting from other sources-------or through various other avenues.

If a woman is REALLY attractive, and she get's lots of attention in real life, or if she gets a lot of attention from social networking sites like "Facebook", then she'll tend to be less available, less agreeable, or less cooperative when it comes to online dating.

A lot of women who fit this category typically use online dating as just another tool to get an "Attention Fix" as opposed to a true avenue through which they can meet eligible men to date.

V.U.
 

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If you are going to do the online thing I suggest you learn a bit of Russian and get a Russian/Ukrainian/Latvian/etc. phone number (you can buy a phone card with one for under $2). Then go to vkontakte.ru That is the main Russian language social networking site. You will have hundreds of friends in a matter of weeks from the entire CIS/Baltic State region. Christians, Muslims, light hair, dark hair, slant eyes, blue eyes, etc. Whatever you are into. Best of all, it is free and as legit as facebook (which isn't saying much!).

How do you meet folks on there? Easy. Play games. Those people LOVE games. Lots of girls play them. Once they know you are from America you will be gold. Everyone wants an American boyfriend. That is MAJOR bragging status.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWoMYCUEgeE
This is more true in Ukraine. A screwed up land. A land that God made just for the likes of a screwed up boy like myself :kick:
 

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Most women online are attention wh0res.

Great pics is the best weapon here.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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shizz702

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Should be used as a tool, not your main strategy for dating. You certainly can land some dates through it, I have. Hit up the free stuff as the paid stuff ain't worth it. Do some searching around for good ways to set up your profile and good opening lines. Check out my thread for a great opener to break the ice with them http://sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=188620
 

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Alot of psychologically damaged women and most with some kind of baggage.

On a few occassions however Ive met some normal, well grounded women, but these are quite rare and hard to meet.
 

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BigJimbo said:
If you are going to do the online thing I suggest you learn a bit of Russian and get a Russian/Ukrainian/Latvian/etc. phone number (you can buy a phone card with one for under $2). Then go to vkontakte.ru That is the main Russian language social networking site. You will have hundreds of friends in a matter of weeks from the entire CIS/Baltic State region. Christians, Muslims, light hair, dark hair, slant eyes, blue eyes, etc. Whatever you are into. Best of all, it is free and as legit as facebook (which isn't saying much!).

How do you meet folks on there? Easy. Play games. Those people LOVE games. Lots of girls play them. Once they know you are from America you will be gold. Everyone wants an American boyfriend. That is MAJOR bragging status.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWoMYCUEgeE
This is more true in Ukraine. A screwed up land. A land that God made just for the likes of a screwed up boy like myself :kick:
THANK YOU FOR THAT SITE, I just got on there, first girl I message, told her she was pretty, she replied and has been very nice, and she actually lives 15 minutes from me(I live in America obviously). I suggest everyone to get their asses on there, **** American women, you know how many you can message to even be lucky enough to get any sort of respnoce? probably 50
 
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