What are your greatest hindrances in being A Man a.k.a. Natural Attractor? I want to

[Alchemystic]

This is a re-posted thread, I kinda posted it in the tips section. Okay, Open for discussion. Give a list. Comments are much appreciated.

What are your greatest hindrances in being A Man a.k.a. Natural Attractor?
I want to know why some guys still haven't evolved into an attractor a.k.a. A Real Man?

So, Who I am and what did I experience to become who I am now? Alchemystic is a Non de Plume of the strategist tactician XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX. Basically, I am a Nice Guy and no amount of hypnotism, aggressive persuasion can ever change the way I think, or so it seems, Nevertheless, I did not give up. I knew that I already lost everything and nothing could ever change the way I feel about myself. I knew I was still going to have fear but then it dawned on me, what if I could somehow make it seem like I have no fear? What if I could artificially create the absence of fear? Well, I did! I decided to try the next best thing, which is artificially inducing the lack of fear by removing the reason why I felt fear in the first place. Let me explain, the reason that cause me to have fear of rejection was due to fear of loss but I have a fear of loss because I felt I didn’t have an abundant resources of girls. I knew I couldn’t change the way I feel, so I change the situation instead. How do you remove this perceive scarcity anyway? The answer struck me; I didn’t have abundant resources of girls because I never did try achieving, an abundant enough number of girls to lose the fear of lost. So I tried pursuing, approaching women with actually of no other intention than to spend time with her. I made meeting with women a habit. I force myself to make it a goal to have at least 1 date per day for 1 year until it becomes habitual enough that I wouldn’t actually be thinking about it that much anymore. Anyway, as I went on asking women out I found out it was actually not as easy as it seems but I still regarded it as fun and easy. It is a game and it is supposed to be fun. If it isn’t fun then you’re obviously doing something wrong. Take it easy, relax. One rejection is naught but merely a drop of water in an ocean of rejection for I only get 1 yes answer to a date for every 140 girls I’ve asked. But, I did not give up; I continued asking women out, 150 – 180 times in a day. I received so much rejection that I felt numb whenever a girl rejected me. Rejection didn’t bother me anymore at all. I now realized it was a numbers game. The simple answer after all along was not to be average. Average guys get average rejection conversely average success. The secret to getting an above average rate of success with women was to get an above average rate of rejection and no other way. But it was even harder through the dates because I didn’t have any special techniques, lines, scripts, moves, tactics or even any game at all. I was totally clueless. It was mostly a matter of trial and error. I had to go through being stood up 10 times for every dozen or so girls that agreed to a date with me. Do you know what that means? I had to get rejected by over a thousand girls before I could manage to set – up a decent number of dates. But still I continued, at this time I was already getting 2 – 3 dates per week but still that wasn’t enough to make it a daily habit. So I tried improving my looks, my interaction (rapport) and the way I feel about myself (confidence). I could now see myself as an attractive person and had overcome the fear of loss and rejection. I didn’t care anymore what I said or what I do because I knew that I would always have a lot of back – ups. I started to experiment. I started to have fun! I found out the more bad I become, the more the girls were falling in love with me. I continued experimenting, adding more and more “badness” until it came to the point I was having multiple girlfriends fighting over me. I was having sex with multiple girls at the same time. Once it was just a dream, now has become so real. It was surreal; I couldn’t believe what was happening to me. I was an ugly Nice Guy who had no experience in sex let alone kissing a girl to having multiple sex partners. It was amazing. It started out as a numbers game and as I gained more experience my chances went up. It was no longer a game of chance; I could now make girls attracted to me by choice! Attraction is a matter of choice and not by chance. Whoever said attraction is not a choice is an idiot! I have now realized, it is not about what you have, what you look, what you say or not say and it wasn’t even about what you did but rather how you felt about yourself. I now understood the meaning of the “Inner Game”. (I was already successful having only an inner game in a conservative culture while a reported serial killer was on the lose, Do you know how challenging is it to get a date on a conservative culture with reports in the news about a serial killer on the lose? Just imagine how better I would become if I master all those systems and routines? Eyyyy…?)


I have read some post and seen guys complained, they whined about getting girls as difficult. They say stuff like ohh I am such a loser coz I only get 1 cellphone number for every 8 girls I asked. So what? Oh, my God! I only get 1 cellphone number for every 150 – 160 girls I asked and I have until this very day, still, and will always think that getting girls is easy. I think it is a matter of mindset.
They asked why the Naturals laugh when they see this website. Well, go re - checked the forums then you will read things like:
“Getting girls is like a customer betting on a lottery each week and never winning”
Then other guys debunk his idea and go to say something else.
They say:
“No, getting girls is like entering a lottery. PERIOD.
Then another guy disagrees and tells you that;
“Getting girls is winning the lottery.
Finally, you meet a guy who tells you that you are the prize! You are the lottery to be won.
Yeah! Great. (Sarcasm :eeck )
But the Naturals (Bad Boys) just laugh at and say “What lottery”? The lottery does not exist! It is only in your mind. It is a matter of mindset. A system of beliefs, As You Think, You Shall Become!

Even if your are a walking DHV, without the proper mindset then you would still be losing more women than what you are attracting.

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

I'm sorry, but I couldn't get through half of it... Read the intro a bit of body and outro, but for god sakes get some paragraphs happening. That is rough.

Anyways, I think I got the jist of what you're trying to say.

Here's my experience with this whole journey.

I've finally reached a point in my life where I am "grown up." I've been working very hard on my inner game, the way I carry myself, the way I do things, how I interact with others and how I talk to and interact with women, especially.

I've reached manhood, adulthood and maturity and it feels really great.

One thing I've come to realize (and this is very hard to impress on younger men who just don't have the experience or the capacity to grasp this concept (and many never do. Just cuz you get old doesn't mean you grow up), is that a lot of the problems that we have with women basically disappear when you get a handle on what it is to be a "real man". When your inner game is so tight that you live and die by your standards, mantras and philosophies. Once this happens, all techniques, tricks and "fake it til you make" becomes redundant. You are so tight that anything a woman does doesn't shake your composure in the least. She flakes, who cares? She's a *****, who cares? She whines, complains and acts "all over the map", who cares? She can't shake you.

This is very powerful and I've noticed the biggest problem I'm having recently is that I have too many women to choose from. Too may options. I'm a pretty good looking guy, who really has his sh!t together, and it is magnetic for women. I naturally attract 7s-8s and I'm working on attracting the 9s and 10s. I can get them, but I have to work for it a bit and I'm not willing to do so, at this point. I want it to be able to draw them in by just being me (the best me possible) and this is an ongoing project.

Fix yourself and you automatically fix everything that happens to be going on around you.

Age and maturity are amazing things.

I still have women I hooked up with months ago and decided they werent for me, emailing/txting and telling me how amazing I am. They all went on to date other guys but they keep coming back around and try to get me to come back. I'm over the numbers game and don't care how many woman I bag. I'm over 60 chicks at this point and it all doesn't matter, anymore. I truly am looking for the high quality woman. The ones with no hangups and who have stability. She is as much the prize as I am and together we form something amazing.

Looks matter; It's a sad but true fact, but when you make a woman feel something that few/no men can make her feel, there's nothing she can do to avoid being attracted to you....even if your looks aren't all that. Every man has to work on his inner stuff, no matter what he looks like. Problem is that a lot of the better looking guys get this sort of training early on, as they do get treated differently as younger men. (much like the super hot women do.) But their game still has to be tight....

You attract to you exactly who and what you are. If you're a broken mess, you will get woman who have similar problems. If you're together and stable, you'll attract a woman who is the same.

 

[Alchemystic]

I am glad you understood what I meant?

Okay keep the post rolling.. More feedback needed to help the younger generations avoid the same mistakes.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Very few are going to read this crap until you break it up into spaced paragraphs. Just look at it. Would you want to work your way through that? there's an edit button there. Clean it up and we'll read it.

 

[Badmannaz]

listen im not about to read all that s.hit you wrote because i just dont have the time...i would say my body.....but that doesn't stop me from getting some cut to tonight....

overall your mind will be the natural attractor...your experience in life will determine how natural you are...

 

[Rubirosa]

I'm sorry, but I couldn't get through half of it... Read the intro a bit of body and outro, but for god sakes get some paragraphs happening. That is rough.

Anyways, I think I got the jist of what you're trying to say.

Here's my experience with this whole journey.

I've finally reached a point in my life where I am "grown up." I've been working very hard on my inner game, the way I carry myself, the way I do things, how I interact with others and how I talk to and interact with women, especially.

I've reached manhood, adulthood and maturity and it feels really great.

One thing I've come to realize (and this is very hard to impress on younger men who just don't have the experience or the capacity to grasp this concept (and many never do. Just cuz you get old doesn't mean you grow up), is that a lot of the problems that we have with women basically disappear when you get a handle on what it is to be a "real man". When your inner game is so tight that you live and die by your standards, mantras and philosophies. Once this happens, all techniques, tricks and "fake it til you make" becomes redundant. You are so tight that anything a woman does doesn't shake your composure in the least. She flakes, who cares? She's a *****, who cares? She whines, complains and acts "all over the map", who cares? She can't shake you.

This is very powerful and I've noticed the biggest problem I'm having recently is that I have too many women to choose from. Too may options. I'm a pretty good looking guy, who really has his sh!t together, and it is magnetic for women. I naturally attract 7s-8s and I'm working on attracting the 9s and 10s. I can get them, but I have to work for it a bit and I'm not willing to do so, at this point. I want it to be able to draw them in by just being me (the best me possible) and this is an ongoing project.

Fix yourself and you automatically fix everything that happens to be going on around you.

Age and maturity are amazing things.

I still have women I hooked up with months ago and decided they werent for me, emailing/txting and telling me how amazing I am. They all went on to date other guys but they keep coming back around and try to get me to come back. I'm over the numbers game and don't care how many woman I bag. I'm over 60 chicks at this point and it all doesn't matter, anymore. I truly am looking for the high quality woman. The ones with no hangups and who have stability. She is as much the prize as I am and together we form something amazing.

Looks matter; It's a sad but true fact, but when you make a woman feel something that few/no men can make her feel, there's nothing she can do to avoid being attracted to you....even if your looks aren't all that. Every man has to work on his inner stuff, no matter what he looks like. Problem is that a lot of the better looking guys get this sort of training early on, as they do get treated differently as younger men. (much like the super hot women do.) But their game still has to be tight....

You attract to you exactly who and what you are. If you're a broken mess, you will get woman who have similar problems. If you're together and stable, you'll attract a woman who is the same.

This is EXCELLENT advice. I'm somewhat older than he is, but I've basically arrived at the same conclusions. I'm actually jealous that he found out this stuff so much earlier than I did. It's easy to talk and say that you will hold high standards for yourself, but unless you get off your a$$ and make yourself "worthy" of possessing these high standards, it's a waste of time.