"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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What Are You Guys Thinking?

Gipper

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OK, lets discuss this a little more:

VeryBadGirl:"In some people's mind, the logic is: If the goal is one kick-ass person, then the process involves one person at a time. Societal influence, for sure."

DeepBlue(The Chess Computer?):"There you go. As you say, you've narrowed your selection down to one chick that you enjoy being with. That is exactly what people are talking about when they say "there's this one special girl". At least, that is the way I interpret that statement when I hear it."

Azathoth:"Maybe what people's problems are is that they work themselves up into a frenzy reading all the posts, and tips and DJBible, finally decide to get out there and test out the knowledge they've gained.. get rejected a few times, and when they finally get one who says yes, they throw up their hands and say "YES!! a woman! i dont have to work any more or be alone"

OK: Societal influence, a fear of never finding a "soulmate", or willing to settle for the first positive response that comes along.

This is good. These are the kind of responses I was looking for. Any more thoughts? I hate to get deep and meaningful on a Friday, but it's been gnawing at me.

Gipper



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"Keep your girlfriend away from me,
Just advice I’m giving you for free,
Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
-Local H, from "Here Comes The Zoo"
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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xniceguy

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Maybe I have been brainwashed.

I have no problems dating more than one woman at a time. The difficulty starts when I try to sleep with more than one at a time.

Yeah, I do feel a little morally skeezy banging one one night and another the next. But I'm sure I can work on that feeling if I try.

My problem is how to announce to someone, "Yeah, just because we're sleeping together doesn't mean we're exclusive".

My feelings aside, I think many chicks think that sex=exclusivity. This leaves a few, none-very-good options:

1. Flat out announce that fact (sex != exclusivity). This is talking as opposed to acting, something I'm militantly opposed to. It also wrecks the moment, and you're not likely to get away with it. "What! So I'm good enough to bang but not good enough to stop seeing other people!"

2. Just do it, and try and conceal the other women in your life. What the hell? Why should I hide anything, even if I could get away with it?

3. Just do it and wait for her to freak out on you. Very passive, and not likely to be sucessful.

Anyone have any thoughts on how to manage this problem?



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For most women I know, until you have the exclusivity talk, they most likely assume that you are dating other girls besides them.

As far as fear of not finding a a soulmate, I would say that fear is a pretty realistic one. Because there is no such thing as a soulmate.

Many people find a kick-ass person and mistake them for their "soulmate." Then they assume that since they are meant to be or whatever, that the relationship is always going to be as easy as it was for the first 6 months. They don't realize that you have to work at a relationship - work to keep the intimacy, romance, sex, love, kindness, respect, honesty, trust, etc alive everyday.

They don't work at it and then something goes wrong. And they are all confused and sad like "We are soulmates, why did we break up? Waaa!"

And I say, "Duh, because you were dumb and didn't work at it and thought everything was going to fall in place by magic or some sh*t like that."

Ok, sorry that rant went a little off topic.
 

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VeryBadGirl,

I am very impressed at your observation.

Very astute.

Most females believe in the whole "soulmate" concept, yet you don't. Interesting.

Gipper

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"Keep your girlfriend away from me,
Just advice I’m giving you for free,
Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
-Local H, from "Here Comes The Zoo"
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ok well i know im new here but here is what my thoughts are......this whole thing about dating more than one girl has never been my style really and maybe i have been brain washed or whatever but on the other hand i have always been idealistic and believed in love and all that and as far as the two categories that comote stated i would have to fall into both of them i have had a girlfriend and we went out for three years but near the end she turned into a major ***** and ultimately i got burned badly but to every guy i have ever known who comes to me telling me im sick of women and im not gonna take this anymore and forget love and commitment i say put a f***ing band-aid on you p***y.

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I know few women who have steady boyfriends who are just out for "fun". Most of them just have fuk friends, dial-a-diks (men who give #'s at bars) or may have an open relationship with their fuk friend.

The girls I know who are dating, live with their men. No, they dont want the house and the kids etc etc. but they do want stability, trust and reliability.
 

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Originally posted by TheRockStar:
ok well i know im new here but here is what my thoughts are......this whole thing about dating more than one girl has never been my style really and maybe i have been brain washed or whatever but on the other hand i have always been idealistic and believed in love and all that and as far as the two categories that comote stated i would have to fall into both of them i have had a girlfriend and we went out for three years but near the end she turned into a major ***** and ultimately i got burned badly but to every guy i have ever known who comes to me telling me im sick of women and im not gonna take this anymore and forget love and commitment i say put a f***ing band-aid on you p***y.


Thanks for commenting TheRockStar! Because you are new here makes your comments valuable.

I'm just wondering about the mindset that the newbies have when they say they only date one girl at a time.

You say you might be brainwashed, but by who (whom)?

Being idealistic is OK, but who put these ideas in your head?

Gipper


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-Trent, from "Swingers"

"Keep your girlfriend away from me,
Just advice I’m giving you for free,
Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
-Local H, from "Here Comes The Zoo"
 

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well Gipper i would have to say it is probably mostly the movies i mean look at all those flicks about undying love and love at first sight and how the guy will die for love and all those romantic glizty larger than life heros ya know i mean a steady diet of that stuff will put that idea in your head that that is how love should be you know come in and sweep her off her feet candles all over music pure heaven and all that you know what i mean? or am i not making sense here cause i think i may have lost my train of thought

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No man, you're making sense. Movies are a very powerful forum in this country. Any politcal or social cause can be championed on the silver screen, whether or not it's correct or even makes sense.

And speaking of movies, is "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" pretty funny?

Gipper

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"There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know you're money, and that you want to party.
-Trent, from "Swingers"

"Keep your girlfriend away from me,
Just advice I’m giving you for free,
Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
-Local H, from "Here Comes The Zoo"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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also one more thing just crossed my mind....im a twenty year old college student....i have neither the money nor the time to date more than one girl at a time.

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and yeah Jay and Silent Bon is awesome. just to give you an idea of how good i thought it was...i own it.

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Gipper,

I am thinking that more jackasses out there should be worrying about their morality so I can have less competition.
 

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Personally I have a hard time keeping multiple women strait. "Oh ****, did she like purple or red, I can't remember which is which." I'd rather do it right with one then do it wrong with three. It's all personal opinion anyway, which ever way works best for you...

-al
 

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I've kind of adapted a different approach. I dont usually date more than one woman at a time, because I get bored with myself.

What do I mean? Well, when you're dating 2 or 3 girls, it's like you're always having the same conversations, just with different people. Hell, you might even go to the same place two nights in a row. This makes it a lot less interesting, especially when you also have the certain danger of any of them finding out about the others. It's stress that I dont need. As much as I may like the girl, if she's my second date in as many days, she's not going to get the best I have to offer. It's pretty simple.

I dont believe in "the one", but I think it is in your best interest to date a lot of people before finding a "kick-ass one" to actually share your life with (whether in marriage or not).
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by TheTrimReaper:
Gipper,

I am thinking that more jackasses out there should be worrying about their morality so I can have less competition.
HAHAHAHAHA!

G.
 

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Originally posted by Powertrip:
I've kind of adapted a different approach. I dont usually date more than one woman at a time, because I get bored with myself.

What do I mean? Well, when you're dating 2 or 3 girls, it's like you're always having the same conversations, just with different people. Hell, you might even go to the same place two nights in a row. This makes it a lot less interesting, especially when you also have the certain danger of any of them finding out about the others. It's stress that I dont need. As much as I may like the girl, if she's my second date in as many days, she's not going to get the best I have to offer. It's pretty simple.

I dont believe in "the one", but I think it is in your best interest to date a lot of people before finding a "kick-ass one" to actually share your life with (whether in marriage or not).
Thanks, Powertrip. That's an interesting take on things that I hadn't considered.

Gipper

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Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
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just for the record ...
i was just thinking about lunch until i read this post.
now i am thinking about lunch and hotties.
ummm hotties for lunch.......




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Ummm, Penkitten for lunch....

Anyway Gipper, how about this? They're lazy, they don't want to expend the energy to go after more than one chick. But laziness is just fear in disguise. They're intimidated by women, and they don't want to face rejection more than they have to. They get one girl, and decide she's the one. They get dumped, cry a little, eventually get their courage back, go hunting, and repeat the process. Casting a bigger net means risking rejection more than they feel they need to.

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Originally posted by xniceguy:
My problem is how to announce to someone, "Yeah, just because we're sleeping together doesn't mean we're exclusive".
First of all, I'd like to add a reason why chumps don't date multiple women. Rockstar pointed out the influence of the media. I would like to point out the influence of girls they know. Most young guys are weak puzzies who hang around with groups of girls hoping to glean knowledge from them to get a girlfriend of their own. Since there's no real men like us in these boys lives for them to look up to, they listen very closely and follow these bytche's philosophies (true love, the one, etc). Pretty soon 19yr old puzzy-boy has adopted a female mentality about relationships--all before he's scored any puzzy himself. These are the very same puzzies who blast me for telling them how it is in the real world.

To answer your question, xniceguy--

What's worked for me in the past is early on in the relationship, she will bring up your past relationships, particularly your last girlfriend. They all do this. That's when you casually say, "I just got out of a relationship, and I'm not in a rush to get back into a committed one right now. I'm just dating and having fun." That's about as clear as you can be without being insulting to her.

WARNING. This is only a temporary solution. Women have the uncanny ability of selective hearing and WILL "forget" you told her this later on after she's fallen in love with you. So you will have some confrontations later down the road. That's when you have to decide if you want to stick to your guns or give her the exclusivity she wants. Dating multiple chicks can only go on for as long as she's comfortable doing it. When that timeframe is over, and you still want other girls, you have to tell her, "I understand where you're coming from. I understand what you want, but I'm not ready for that right now. I don't think we should see each other anymore."

Jake
 

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I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

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