"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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What are the signs of a low value woman?

El Payaso

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What are the early red flags that indicate a woman is low value so that you can avoid them.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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jurry

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You arent going to know how many partners she's had early on.

I would just generally say drama, when you are with her is she always going on about problems with XYZ, what this person did to her, constantly getting pulled into more bs, etc.

If they are chill, cute, funny, and suck côck then what more do you want?
 

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I don't think it's as much as a set list of things of community standards but it should be a a set of personal boundaries which you're aware of what you're attracted to. It's like I hate being around girls who don't dress well, I just don't like it so to me they are low value, I don't feel good when I am around them and I assume that the girl is sloppy and doesn't look after herself. Another guy might be cool with that and enjoy the casual look. I'd also say a girl who is overly crude is low value but that's just my opinion and how my mind works. There will of course be more generic low value factors like drug taking, alcoholism and mental disorders. But the real differences to most guys on here will come ones they have a bit of introspection and say to themselves, "I don't like girls who are always late because I value my time and it annoys me." So when a chicks late for a first date, it's just getting to the point where the guy is disrespecting own values. At the end of the day, when the crap hits the fan, a man is only as disappointed as how far he allowed his boundaries to be trampled on. A man won't worry about losing a girl because she didn't make the grade but if he let her get away with stuff and he stuck around and she left him, he'll feel much worse because he was not only disrespected by her but he's disrespected himself too. So the signs of a low value woman? There are tons of threads on that but most of it will be things that make you feel negative emotions, that's a pretty good barometer. If you don't feel good around her, to you she is low value. Sorted.
 

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One who wants a guy who is covered in tattoos

Has kids

Flakes

Instagram wh0re

Gold digger

No dad in the picture



Has many orbiters

Uneducated/no stable job/no money
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Oh there's too many to list. My top 5:

Hyper-emotional (maybe BPD)
Lots of tattoo's
Lots of guy friends/orbiters
No sense of humor
Bum/loser/deadbeat exes
 

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Hey...I'm Agnostic. That makes me a bad person? Ouch. Lol. I agree with the constant watching of TV, social media, etc. I'll add that to my list.
 

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If you meet a girl who instantly goes into the "every guy I've ever dated beat me, cheated on me, blah blah blah" then you know you have a low value one. Women will instantly talk badly about their ex's if given the chance but don't misunderstand, they will go back to them in a heartbeat or someone like them if given the chance. They're just on a date with you for a free meal and something to do.
 

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Robert28 said:
If you meet a girl who instantly goes into the "every guy I've ever dated beat me, cheated on me, blah blah blah" then you know you have a low value one. Women will instantly talk badly about their ex's if given the chance but don't misunderstand, they will go back to them in a heartbeat or someone like them if given the chance. They're just on a date with you for a free meal and something to do.
Yes.

If she says " you better not hurt me", you should RUN!! Signs of relationship abuse
 

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Fat.

If you are asking, is she a loser in society's eyes because you can't tell, then I will respectfully recommend you see a psychologist or at least educate yourself on the symptoms of Aspeger's.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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- Too many guy "friends"
- No job or prospects
- Too busy with career
- Carrying too much baggage from past relationships
- Overweight/ugly
- Arrogant/big ego
 

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It's amazing how many guys are falling over just to attract a BPD chick.

Sure maybe they're an easy lay but is it worth the drama?

I swear some guys will stick their penis in anything. Even if it's fat or full of sperm left over from 6 different guys.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Men and women are different, would you really want your girl consumed by hypergamy and arbitrary emotions without strong ties to Godly morality? Not in the West, where accountability is outdated and social constraints evaporated.
You really think belief/faith stands a chance against a woman's emotions? :crackup:
 

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One that I've consistently noticed is when a woman tells me what a good person she is. She's not sharing this quality to make you more interested, she's giving herself an affirmation. She's likely a royal cvnt who's been called a bytch many times by many people.
 

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A common thing for low value women around here where I live is their standards for you will be impossible to meet, however the track record of guys they've dated don't even come close to the standards they've set for YOU. What I mean is maybe you know she dated lots of bums and losers in the past, however when you are on a date with her you better have YOUR sh!t together even though she brings nothing of value to the table whatsoever. It'll be about why don't you make more money, why don't you have 7 little b@stard kids you don't pay for, why isn't your car newer even though it may be a 2013 but yet all the guys she's dated didn't have a vehicle because their license was suspended or they rode a moped. They'll have this laundry list of what they're looking for in a guy but it won't add up with the types of guys they've dated in the past. In other words she says she wants a doctor but always seems to date the cashier at the gas station, she wants a guy who works out but dates guys who look like they've been on meth or are currently on meth, wants a responsible guy but dates guys that have 7 different kids with 7 different women and doesn't pay any child support, etc.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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My top 5(not in any specific order):
1.Fat
2.Single Mom
3.Feminist
4.Too many male friends
5.Drugs/alcohol abuse
 

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Sooo many women possess 2 or 3 or ALL of these traits you have espoused. I'd say having a good relationship or close father is kinda essential. I say that knowing how well my mother took care of her father as he died this year, and from observing "traditional" girls who Love their fathers.
 

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All women are low quality until proven otherwise.
Lol. This. According to the ancient Greeks a man came back as a woman if he were a coward and that women were inferior or degenerate men.

Women are just men with holes instead of cox. Think of them as gay men and you'll be right.
 

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While we can go into a whole litany of things that are a signs of low quality, I find the one thing ALL low quality women have is an incredibly low self esteem. Now that sounds basic and to be honest I used to not really understand what low self esteem truly is. But basically it comes down to self acceptance.

All the weird manifestations that we call Red Flags emanate out of this core trauma.. and these manifestations can look very different from one girl to another. You must screen women for how they perceive themselves, this will give you an indication of how they will operate in your life in the future.

The reason we talk so much about a girls background, relationship with her parents etc is that it gives an indication of how well her sense of self was developed. A messed up upbringing will result in core trauma that will burden your sanity greatly.

Unless you meet her after she has done a decade of therapy.. you should run. If you do not run, well you obviously have the very same issues she has and are feeding off the faux power of white knighting.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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