What am I doing wrong(Rant)

[Crissco]

I have no idea what im donig wrong, im a great looking person, with a great personality, I should be getting laid left and right.

Im great at the approach, the comebacks, wittiness, making them laugh. My problem lies in the initial closing. Or if I get into it to much I can go overboard with certain things. Im a bit pissed bc like I said I should be getting laid atleast 3 times a month if not more. Seems the more I read and think about seduction/pick-up the more my head is filled when im out/ or texing and it gets discombobulated making things worse)

I know theres only so much I can say without someone observing me.But whats going on here, how can I improve this?

 

[NorwegianDJ]

Your description is too vivid.

#1 You're not going out enough

#2 Not following your intent

#2-1 Not kinoing properly
#2-2 Not being direct enough

#3 Not being authentic

And so on. My main guess would be that you're simply not going out enough or meeting enough girls.
Practice makes perfect.

 

[synergy1]

You are out-come dependent.

That was a problem for me too, until I realized that the less I cared, the more girls would hit on me. Just relax, be a fun and cool guy and do not hit on the girls. They will make their interest known.

You want her to think that fvcking you is HER idea.

Chicks aren't totally dumb, and know when a guy is going after them. But you are right, you have to have other avenues and women will pick up on this and it will be their idea. I was (and sometimes still am) outcome dependent, and you are dead on - its unreliable.

OP, need more details. If you are what you say you are, you should be having some success. Of course everyone who struggles seems to be whitty, smart, and good looking which I sincerely doubt. Post pics of yourself and women you get with and let others be the judge. Other than that, judge yourself on results , not your ideals. There isn't enough to critique.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Your words betray the weakness of entitlement; "I should be getting this, I should be getting that."

There is no should. There is only what is.

You give yourself unearned credit, and you impotently run around in circles inside your head trying to rationalize what should be versus what IS.

Such is the psychology of looters, so sadly prevalent today.

Know that you would not fail if there was not room for failure in your character. And from this knowledge, regenerate yourself with the revelation that you have much work to do, in order to earn the reality you dream of. It's not that the things you want are beyond you; you simply are not there yet.

When what you ARE is the only matter of importance, and you realize that what you HAVE can only ever be a simple reflection of what you ARE, you will be taking the first steps FORWARD in earnest.

 

[Crissco]

I know, what I said was very broad. In all honesty, I dont care, I go out to have fun and thats it. I think all of you nailed it on the head, except for the fact im very direct, most of the time to direct and blunt. Gets me into trouble some of the times. I dont kino enough like I should, ill admit to that. I seek gratification more then validation, im not as insecure as alot of people who only want pu*sy, but when I get it, I feel gratified more then validated. Since I dont have much money, I dont go out enough and use my time efficiently enough like I should.

I posted a pic of me, in the pic thread. Ill post another one just for you guys.

I also want to state, im bipolar so there are times where my moods go up and down, and I overanalize things to much which is my downfall.

EDIT---Took the pic off bc I dont want people posting it all over the internet


Just found a pretty good thread on outcome dependence.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=145208

 

[synergy1]

from that you look legit enough. Your appearance certainly isn't holding you back. Thats a good thing!

I seem to recall posting this on another thread too, but the ups/downs are common. Some nights are better than others which means that talking to women can be easier. When you go out and look around, most guys aren't even talking to random girls. They just sit there and stare. Sure, a few are boyfriends and are watching ( read dreading) their gf talking to other people. Others are just regular people who don't feel like socializing, but want a piece.

I am always in my best mood when all my friends are out and about and being social. People's good moods are contagious, so that helps a lot. its like getting pumped before the big game. To me, going out and trying to talk to women is always fun. Me and the boys talk about it, joke about it and always make it enjoyable. If you aren't having the success you want, don't worry. We get shot down plenty, even having success. It happens. Don't build up huge expectations that the PUA community sells you - they are using fear to make you want their products.

FWIW 3 random lays per month is a lot, for me. I forget what I was doing during good times, and it was 1-2 , and 0 during a bad times. Whatever. it happens, or it doesn't!

 

[Crissco]

from that you look legit enough. Your appearance certainly isn't holding you back. Thats a good thing!

I seem to recall posting this on another thread too, but the ups/downs are common. Some nights are better than others which means that talking to women can be easier. When you go out and look around, most guys aren't even talking to random girls. They just sit there and stare. Sure, a few are boyfriends and are watching ( read dreading) their gf talking to other people. Others are just regular people who don't feel like socializing, but want a piece.

I am always in my best mood when all my friends are out and about and being social. People's good moods are contagious, so that helps a lot. its like getting pumped before the big game. To me, going out and trying to talk to women is always fun. Me and the boys talk about it, joke about it and always make it enjoyable. If you aren't having the success you want, don't worry. We get shot down plenty, even having success. It happens. Don't build up huge expectations that the PUA community sells you - they are using fear to make you want their products.

FWIW 3 random lays per month is a lot, for me. I forget what I was doing during good times, and it was 1-2 , and 0 during a bad times. Whatever. it happens, or it doesn't!

Believe me I know that. I just take little tidbits of information from the PUA sites..Like the 3 second rule works great for me. Ancoring- Connectiong an emotion..etc...I used to do that even before I knew about these sites without even realizing it. Once I came to these sites the peices where put togeather why woman do this and that, but the more I read the more confused I get, even after a year and a couple of months
.
Ive been reading up on some NLP lately..Intresting sh*t

I had my best success when I just went with my natural instincts and witty comebacks.

Thanks for the advice bro.


Edit- 3 random lays a month is only a lot if u let it be, I had 3 make out sessions in one night. If I can do that I know I can do 3 lays in a week or less.

 

[Crissco]

Had a girl over tonight..tooooo easy:woo: ...first off she drove 40 min to come see me..Second she got in my room she grabbed me and we started to make out..I lifted her up threw her on the bed, you guys can guess the rest. ha ha :rockon:

 

[synergy1]

Edit- 3 random lays a month is only a lot if u let it be, I had 3 make out sessions in one night. If I can do that I know I can do 3 lays in a week or less.

Its easy to come to an online message board and say you are the man. A lot of people do it, and some of it is probably embellished. With that in mind, I won't come on here and say 3 lays is easy. Some of it is luck, some of it is how you feel and how you execute. To be honest, I am not sure I want 3 lays a month as opposed to maybe 1 good lay, and 1 quality lead etc. But to each their own.

FWIW makeout sessions are my thing. 6 is my best. 3 random lays this month might even happen given my success the last two weekends, but I am less excited about this than I am about getting temp work ( see other thread).

NLP, id avoid it. Unless you want to be like Ross Jefferies and acting like a dog, just be a well put together guy. its easier and better than all this gimmicky **** which just covers up ones deficiencies.

 

[Crissco]

Its easy to come to an online message board and say you are the man. A lot of people do it, and some of it is probably embellished. With that in mind, I won't come on here and say 3 lays is easy. Some of it is luck, some of it is how you feel and how you execute. To be honest, I am not sure I want 3 lays a month as opposed to maybe 1 good lay, and 1 quality lead etc. But to each their own.

FWIW makeout sessions are my thing. 6 is my best. 3 random lays this month might even happen given my success the last two weekends, but I am less excited about this than I am about getting temp work ( see other thread).

NLP, id avoid it. Unless you want to be like Ross Jefferies and acting like a dog, just be a well put together guy. its easier and better than all this gimmicky **** which just covers up ones deficiencies.

Thats one thing i 100% agree with bro. You never knew who is who and whos telling the truth about this and that. Gotta take it with a grain of salt and use your best judgement. (Which is one of the reason I posted a picture, and have one on my profile pic)
About the girl who came over the other night, you can believe me or you cannot, thats up to you. I know that im telling that truth and thats all that matters.

Make out sessions are my thing too, they just come too easy for me.

NLP has got it good and bad points, I love to read physiology for the self help portion of it, every little bit I can get in my brain the better. Like everything else I take it with a gran of salt, go out see if it works, and mold it to fit me. Personally Direct game, with with just a little bit of indirect works best for me.

 

[synergy1]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't use some parts from 'the game', but mostly its all my own personality. While PUA stuff is largely designed for mass consumption, the old stuff was a solid breakdown of how the interactions took place, and how successful people acted. Dudes who are good at women don't need this since they write their own script so to speak, but people like me ( who weren't good once upon a time) can learn a few things.

its like a golf swing. Foot placement, and the mechanics of swinging can be a hindrance when you are learning, but become automatic once you start playing. For some, all the instruction in the world won't help, but for people like you, a nudge in the right direction should suffice. As opposed to PUA material though, I'd suggest seeing what successful friends do to make their game work. The more similar they are to you , the better.

You are 23. So much will change between now and when you are my age. I suspect at 30 you'll have the success you want with women. As for now, learn from mistakes, and focus on improvements for results. Charlie sheen style! BOOM! WINNING!!

 

[Crissco]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't use some parts from 'the game', but mostly its all my own personality. While PUA stuff is largely designed for mass consumption, the old stuff was a solid breakdown of how the interactions took place, and how successful people acted. Dudes who are good at women don't need this since they write their own script so to speak, but people like me ( who weren't good once upon a time) can learn a few things.

its like a golf swing. Foot placement, and the mechanics of swinging can be a hindrance when you are learning, but become automatic once you start playing. For some, all the instruction in the world won't help, but for people like you, a nudge in the right direction should suffice. As opposed to PUA material though, I'd suggest seeing what successful friends do to make their game work. The more similar they are to you , the better.

You are 23. So much will change between now and when you are my age. I suspect at 30 you'll have the success you want with women. As for now, learn from mistakes, and focus on improvements for results. Charlie sheen style! BOOM! WINNING!!

Im the past year I made increasable improvements bc of confidence and the fact once I read sites like these, certain things came together that I didnt understand about women in general. Once I accepted certain things it all just came together.

FYI on Fast Seduction they have a downloadable PDF archive of all the PUAs from 1999 to present. Got some pretty good advice in there.

I was just about to say being around people who are more sucessfull with women that I am, then just re-read over your post. Im lucky im living with one(my dad) and have two cousins who are = as good.

So technically I grew up around this shi*t. No wonder why I used to always come up with witty comebacks and give girls doggy dinner bowl eyes at 10 years old. Plus me being VERY enthusiastic, and having all the energy in the world ALL THE TIME helped.

Appreciated your advice bro, always good insite.



FYI- Look into Mode One..Its more advanced, and it focus's on direct game, and straight to the point. Be careful on what girls you use it on though, you have to build up some type of connection first. I think you'll really like it alot

http://www.amazon.com/Mode-One-Women-REALLY-Thinking/dp/1591138973