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What am I doing wrong (if anything)? (logs supplied)

Tempest

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okay guys, here's the scoop--

i spend a lot of my time interacting with girls online, through MSN. i use the ****y/funny approach, bust on them, act in control/dominante, and am CONFIDENT. the only problem is, nearly every girl i interact with tells me that i'm too mean to them, or being an *******/jerk. keep in mind that i'm only 18, and interact with highschool kids... so i don't know if that's the problem or not. i've supplied a log of a conversation which i had the other day. am i being too mean? am i doing anything wrong, or is it just the highschool girls which i interact with? should i stop doing what i'm doing, or not?

(the log is just below, 'cuz it was too big to be posted)
 

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the log

HER: do u know who this is
HER: I bet you dont
ME: nope
ME: petros or andreas, or one of their dorky friends
ME: gahmun!!?
HER: I guess I am a odorky friend
ME: probably, what's your name?
HER: Anna
ME: ah, hey brattypants
ME: the street lights are on... isn't it past your bedtime? :)
HER: ahahah No
HER: so what are u doing flirting with girls on the internet]
ME: lmao
ME: the usual
ME: get a life
HER: whatever
ME: and if you had one... YOU wouldn't be talking to guys online!
HER: ahahah thats funny
ME: why thank you my smartypants new friend
HER: my job is to talk to guys online
HER: hhahah yah I am,
ME: you're doing a ****ty job
HER: well I consider u a girl
HER: got nothing to say?
HER: lol
ME: sorry, i have more important people to talk to
HER: hahah u know u love me
ME: uh huh, you wish
HER: haha I know u do lol
HER: I luv bothering u
HER: just like u lik3e bothering me
ME: what makes you think you're bothering me at all?
HER: u know u are really mean:(
HER: too me
ME: and i KNOW that i bother you!
ME: lol... loosen the panties, dork
HER: hahah mean mean mean
ME: there's a difference between playful teasing, and being mean
HER: okay lets end this
HER: so whats new with u
ME: just got off work... really hungry
ME: do you deliver?
HER: haha why dont u go get subway
HER: Hey I m not spoiled anymore
HER: I work now
ME: congratulations
HER: yah
ME: i have to buy my sister's bday gift tomorrow
ME: and her bday is tomorrow =b
HER: what are u getting her
ME: a gift certificate
ME: i meant to buy her gift on friday, we went to the mall
HER: buy her clothes
ME: somehow i got talked into buying a ps2 instead
ME: and totally forgot about the gift
HER: nice
ME: i also bought a badass hollywood hulk hogan book
ME: i don't plan on reading it. it's just for decoration
HER: lol why?
HER: oh
ME: it was $6! you would've done the same!
HER: well buy your sister clothes
ME: originally $41
ME: no
HER: isnt she into fashion
ME: yes
ME: it's easier to buy a gift certificate
HER: oh well if I were her I would like soemthing from the heart like clothes
ME: is this your little strategy that you use to get people to buy you things? =b
ME: nice try!
HER: no I am just saving your ass
ME: i'll tell you what
HER: Its not my fault if your sister says something to u
ME: i'll buy her a gift certificate, AND make her a card
ME: now that has sentimental value
HER: thats better
ME: time to get out the crayons and glitter!
HER: lol
HER: it will all be worth it in the end ltrust me
ME: why? i'd probably just want a gift certificate when my bday comes around
HER: well you are a boy
HER: srry I mean a guy
ME: my sister isn't spoiled like some people :p
ME: she'll be happy with a gift certificate
HER: okay then I guess I dont know anytihng since I am spoiled
ME: now you're on the right track
HER: lol
HER: what games did u buy
ME: i didn't buy any, i just mooch them off people that i know
HER: really
HER: thats nice
HER: u remind me of my brother
ME: so far i've mooched ff10, a pacman game, and some hockey game
HER: he has a ps2 and he doesnt have any games
ME: so he's the cool one in the family?
HER: yah
ME: and you're the spoiled one... how does this work?
HER: I am the dork
HER: lol yah
HER: were are u getting your sisters certificate
ME: chapters =b
HER: y
ME: because that's what she wants
HER: oh really
HER: cool
ME: i don't ask questions
ME: i just buy it
HER: so is that your dream car on your display pic
ME: not really
ME: it's just a corvette, i drive those everyday at work =b
HER: my brother has that car in white
ME: your brother is a super cool guy
HER: oh that even better lol
HER: yah
ME: something's not right... you must've been adopted or something
HER: yah thats what I am told
HER: Have u heard about all the chocolate petro has been eating
HER: I dont know how he isnt sick
ME: petros is fat
HER: no he isnt
ME: i know
HER: he is like u
ME: except he can gain weight
HER: lol ture
HER: hey u are lucky u cant gain weight
ME: i eat healthy anyways, it wouldn't make a difference
HER: oh u mena your subway diet
ME: actually i've cut back
ME: i calculated that i'm spending like $100+/month on subway
HER: wow
ME: it's an addiction!
ME: and those stamps are just to make you come back!
HER: so what are u going to do now
ME: i usually pack boxes of crackers for work
ME: granola bars, and stuff like that
ME: an apple, great source for energy
HER: dopes your mom make u dinner
ME: yes
ME: i just ate half a pizza
HER: yah thats healthy
ME: it is, dork
HER: what kind of pizza
ME: i don't know
HER: were u smmoking something when u ate it
ME: no, i just ate it without thinking what was on it
HER: thats nice
HER: I am surprised u arent at andreas house
ME: i usually only go by after my workouts at the gym
ME: but i've been slacking lately, because my gym pissed me off
HER: what did u do this time
ME: the gym sucks, it's basically all about timing or luck to get on a machine
ME: i was tired of waiting
ME: it's impossible to finish a workout
HER: I see
HER: what gym do u go to
ME: is this an interview?
ME: i go to globogym
HER: yah it is
HER: why dont u go to planet fitness
ME: why don't YOU go to planet fitness
ME: work on those lovehandles
ME: :D
HER: oh that hurt
ME: i'm going to fitness unlimited, 24 hour gym
ME: i want to be able to do my workouts at like 2am
HER: yah thats the best time to go my brother said
ME: even your brother is offering you gym advice!
ME: he must be hinting at something
HER: thats nice thats real nice
HER: now I know why u dont have girlfriends
ME: i don't get into relationships
ME: but did you research that or something?
ME: i just have a few prospects here and there
HER: petro said that was mean that u said I had love handles
ME: i'm sorry PRINCESS. i'll kiss your ass like every other loser for now on
HER: I can tell u dont have girlfreinds becsaue u are just so mean to girls it seems like u cant keep one
ME: what makes you think i'm mean to all girls? :)
HER: whats that suposed to mean
ME: just the spoiled, bratty ones
HER: your so sweet
ME: you're lucky, i usually spank them by now
HER: thats nice
HER: yah
ME: i don't put girls up on a pedestal
HER: do u ever make girls cry
ME: nope
HER: really
ME: unless you're crying right now
HER: noway
ME: you're a wuss if you can't take this
ME: because this is nothing!
HER: I can take evrything u have said to me but the fat things
HER: you never call a girl taht kind of stuff
ME: when did i say you that you're fat?
HER: and Usually guys are nice to me
ME: when did i ever use the word fat?
HER: u said love handles
ME: i'm just saying that you're not as sexy as i am
HER: in your dreams buddy
ME: most guys are nice to you because they're wussies
HER: I am not sayiong I am sexy but
HER: that dont mean u are
HER: really
ME: yup
HER: so do u like making fun of me
ME: yessir, i'm always having fun
HER: really
HER: I should have beat u up that day at the park lol
ME: usually i would've spanked you by then
ME: but you're lucky
HER: haha really
ME: yes, most bratty girls get spanked by me
HER: where
HER: lol
ME: spanked where?
HER: never mind
ME: uh, they're booty
HER: u dont get it
HER: Hey question
HER: never mind
ME: spill it
HER: no
HER: thats okay
ME: ok
HER: do u like golf like petro and andreas
ME: no i suck
HER: I heard
ME: thx
HER: your welcome
ME: i need to work on my swing
HER: Petro said I am better then u
HER: thats okay right
HER: lol
ME: is this whole golf thing a pathetic attempt to recover lost self-esteem?
HER: thats your theory right
HER: and becasue u arent so good at it
ME: i can drive easy 300+ yards
HER: thats okay it happens to a lot of guys
ME: my muscles were sore that day
HER: oh
HER: sends 07.jpg
You have failed to receive file "07.jpg".
ME: what was that?
HER: srry I didnt mean to do that
ME: it's okay, you're aloud 1 mistake
HER: yah
ME: just kidding
ME: now cut off your left pinky
HER: god forbid I make anymore
HER: I need my pinky though then I cant help my mom
HER: so whats up
ME: chatting to people
HER: really u making fun of them
ME: yup
HER: thats nice
HER: u sure have changed since last year
ME: i know
ME: that's because i used to be a nice guy
HER: yah thats what it is ou used to be nice
ME: guess what?
HER: what
ME: nice guys finish last
HER: not with girls
ME: only the really attractive ones
HER: you always come up with good comeback dont you
HER: who is your teacher
ME: thanks for noticing
ME: no teacher here... it comes naturally
HER: really I thought maybe petro or george were involved with the new you
ME: nah, they have no idea
ME: anyways, i'm going to jam
ME: later dorkfus :)
HER: yah later

there it is... i have a few more logs with different girls, if you guys need more help to determine whether this is too harsh or not. i TRY to be ****y/funny in my attitude, but they all say i'm being a jerk to them. am i doing the right things?

thanks in advance.
 

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I think you're overdoing the ****y part by a lot, try toning it down. Bust on them every now and then but otherwise have a normal conversation - seems to work for me anyway!
 

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Exactly -- only use IMs and phone to secure dates.

I use IMs to talk to friends and to diss girls whenever the opportunity comes up (or when I'm in the mood). Doesn't make sense to spend hours chatting with a girl, unless you're making her horny (and then you close the deal).
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Angry

Tone it down. What girl wants to be with an angry, cold man who never makes them feel good?
 

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You're being a straight-up azzhole to that girl. You think you're being funny but you're not. I know, I was in the same stage at one point.

Keep working on yourself and learning what works...you'll straighten out and get the results you want.
 

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Re: the log

Originally posted by Tempest
HER: do u know who this is
HER: I bet you dont
ME: nope
ME: petros or andreas, or one of their dorky friends
ME: gahmun!!?
HER: I guess I am a odorky friend
ME: probably, what's your name?
HER: Anna
ME: ah, hey brattypants
ME: the street lights are on... isn't it past your bedtime? :)
HER: ahahah No
HER: so what are u doing flirting with girls on the internet]
ME: lmao
ME: the usual
ME: get a life
HER: whatever
ME: and if you had one... YOU wouldn't be talking to guys online!
HER: ahahah thats funny
ME: why thank you my smartypants new friend
HER: my job is to talk to guys online
HER: hhahah yah I am,
ME: you're doing a ****ty job
HER: well I consider u a girl
HER: got nothing to say?
HER: lol
ME: sorry, i have more important people to talk to
HER: hahah u know u love me
ME: uh huh, you wish
HER: haha I know u do lol
HER: I luv bothering u
HER: just like u lik3e bothering me
ME: what makes you think you're bothering me at all?
HER: u know u are really mean:(
HER: too me
ME: and i KNOW that i bother you!
ME: lol... loosen the panties, dork
HER: hahah mean mean mean
ME: there's a difference between playful teasing, and being mean
HER: okay lets end this
HER: so whats new with u
ME: just got off work... really hungry
ME: do you deliver?
HER: haha why dont u go get subway
HER: Hey I m not spoiled anymore
HER: I work now
ME: congratulations
HER: yah
ME: i have to buy my sister's bday gift tomorrow
ME: and her bday is tomorrow =b
HER: what are u getting her
ME: a gift certificate
ME: i meant to buy her gift on friday, we went to the mall
HER: buy her clothes
ME: somehow i got talked into buying a ps2 instead
ME: and totally forgot about the gift
HER: nice
ME: i also bought a badass hollywood hulk hogan book
ME: i don't plan on reading it. it's just for decoration
HER: lol why?
HER: oh
ME: it was $6! you would've done the same!
HER: well buy your sister clothes
ME: originally $41
ME: no
HER: isnt she into fashion
ME: yes
ME: it's easier to buy a gift certificate
HER: oh well if I were her I would like soemthing from the heart like clothes
ME: is this your little strategy that you use to get people to buy you things? =b
ME: nice try!
HER: no I am just saving your ass
ME: i'll tell you what
HER: Its not my fault if your sister says something to u
ME: i'll buy her a gift certificate, AND make her a card
ME: now that has sentimental value
HER: thats better
ME: time to get out the crayons and glitter!
HER: lol
HER: it will all be worth it in the end ltrust me
ME: why? i'd probably just want a gift certificate when my bday comes around
HER: well you are a boy
HER: srry I mean a guy
ME: my sister isn't spoiled like some people :p
ME: she'll be happy with a gift certificate
HER: okay then I guess I dont know anytihng since I am spoiled
ME: now you're on the right track
HER: lol
HER: what games did u buy
ME: i didn't buy any, i just mooch them off people that i know
HER: really
HER: thats nice
HER: u remind me of my brother
ME: so far i've mooched ff10, a pacman game, and some hockey game
HER: he has a ps2 and he doesnt have any games
ME: so he's the cool one in the family?
HER: yah
ME: and you're the spoiled one... how does this work?
HER: I am the dork
HER: lol yah
HER: were are u getting your sisters certificate
ME: chapters =b
HER: y
ME: because that's what she wants
HER: oh really
HER: cool
ME: i don't ask questions
ME: i just buy it
HER: so is that your dream car on your display pic
ME: not really
ME: it's just a corvette, i drive those everyday at work =b
HER: my brother has that car in white
ME: your brother is a super cool guy
HER: oh that even better lol
HER: yah
ME: something's not right... you must've been adopted or something
HER: yah thats what I am told
HER: Have u heard about all the chocolate petro has been eating
HER: I dont know how he isnt sick
ME: petros is fat
HER: no he isnt
ME: i know
HER: he is like u
ME: except he can gain weight
HER: lol ture
HER: hey u are lucky u cant gain weight
ME: i eat healthy anyways, it wouldn't make a difference
HER: oh u mena your subway diet
ME: actually i've cut back
ME: i calculated that i'm spending like $100+/month on subway
HER: wow
ME: it's an addiction!
ME: and those stamps are just to make you come back!
HER: so what are u going to do now
ME: i usually pack boxes of crackers for work
ME: granola bars, and stuff like that
ME: an apple, great source for energy
HER: dopes your mom make u dinner
ME: yes
ME: i just ate half a pizza
HER: yah thats healthy
ME: it is, dork
HER: what kind of pizza
ME: i don't know
HER: were u smmoking something when u ate it
ME: no, i just ate it without thinking what was on it
HER: thats nice
HER: I am surprised u arent at andreas house
ME: i usually only go by after my workouts at the gym
ME: but i've been slacking lately, because my gym pissed me off
HER: what did u do this time
ME: the gym sucks, it's basically all about timing or luck to get on a machine
ME: i was tired of waiting
ME: it's impossible to finish a workout
HER: I see
HER: what gym do u go to
ME: is this an interview?
ME: i go to globogym
HER: yah it is
HER: why dont u go to planet fitness
ME: why don't YOU go to planet fitness
ME: work on those lovehandles
ME: :D
HER: oh that hurt
ME: i'm going to fitness unlimited, 24 hour gym
ME: i want to be able to do my workouts at like 2am
HER: yah thats the best time to go my brother said
ME: even your brother is offering you gym advice!
ME: he must be hinting at something
HER: thats nice thats real nice
HER: now I know why u dont have girlfriends
ME: i don't get into relationships
ME: but did you research that or something?
ME: i just have a few prospects here and there
HER: petro said that was mean that u said I had love handles
ME: i'm sorry PRINCESS. i'll kiss your ass like every other loser for now on
HER: I can tell u dont have girlfreinds becsaue u are just so mean to girls it seems like u cant keep one
ME: what makes you think i'm mean to all girls? :)
HER: whats that suposed to mean
ME: just the spoiled, bratty ones
HER: your so sweet
ME: you're lucky, i usually spank them by now
HER: thats nice
HER: yah
ME: i don't put girls up on a pedestal
HER: do u ever make girls cry
ME: nope
HER: really
ME: unless you're crying right now
HER: noway
ME: you're a wuss if you can't take this
ME: because this is nothing!
HER: I can take evrything u have said to me but the fat things
HER: you never call a girl taht kind of stuff
ME: when did i say you that you're fat?
HER: and Usually guys are nice to me
ME: when did i ever use the word fat?
HER: u said love handles
ME: i'm just saying that you're not as sexy as i am
HER: in your dreams buddy
ME: most guys are nice to you because they're wussies
HER: I am not sayiong I am sexy but
HER: that dont mean u are
HER: really
ME: yup
HER: so do u like making fun of me
ME: yessir, i'm always having fun
HER: really
HER: I should have beat u up that day at the park lol
ME: usually i would've spanked you by then
ME: but you're lucky
HER: haha really
ME: yes, most bratty girls get spanked by me
HER: where
HER: lol
ME: spanked where?
HER: never mind
ME: uh, they're booty
HER: u dont get it
HER: Hey question
HER: never mind
ME: spill it
HER: no
HER: thats okay
ME: ok
HER: do u like golf like petro and andreas
ME: no i suck
HER: I heard
ME: thx
HER: your welcome
ME: i need to work on my swing
HER: Petro said I am better then u
HER: thats okay right
HER: lol
ME: is this whole golf thing a pathetic attempt to recover lost self-esteem?
HER: thats your theory right
HER: and becasue u arent so good at it
ME: i can drive easy 300+ yards
HER: thats okay it happens to a lot of guys
ME: my muscles were sore that day
HER: oh
HER: sends 07.jpg
You have failed to receive file "07.jpg".
ME: what was that?
HER: srry I didnt mean to do that
ME: it's okay, you're aloud 1 mistake
HER: yah
ME: just kidding
ME: now cut off your left pinky
HER: god forbid I make anymore
HER: I need my pinky though then I cant help my mom
HER: so whats up
ME: chatting to people
HER: really u making fun of them
ME: yup
HER: thats nice
HER: u sure have changed since last year
ME: i know
ME: that's because i used to be a nice guy
HER: yah thats what it is ou used to be nice
ME: guess what?
HER: what
ME: nice guys finish last
HER: not with girls
ME: only the really attractive ones
HER: you always come up with good comeback dont you
HER: who is your teacher
ME: thanks for noticing
ME: no teacher here... it comes naturally
HER: really I thought maybe petro or george were involved with the new you
ME: nah, they have no idea
ME: anyways, i'm going to jam
ME: later dorkfus :)
HER: yah later

there it is... i have a few more logs with different girls, if you guys need more help to determine whether this is too harsh or not. i TRY to be ****y/funny in my attitude, but they all say i'm being a jerk to them. am i doing the right things?

thanks in advance.
how on earth did you recall this entire conversation.
 

Tempest

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thanks guys, you're all right. looks like when i was going through the process of breaking out of my niceness shell, i went a little overboard. :/

PeeGee and squirrels pointed out a huge mistake which i've been making. i've been spending waaaaaaay too much time talking to them, and havn't been "leaving them wanting MORE".

i'll definetly tone it down, but most of the time i have to resist the temptation of making a great comeback when an opportunity comes up. i'll bust on them occasionally, but for the most part hold a conversation.

this doesn't seem to be much of an issue in real life or on the phone, since they don't take those comments seriously. if i make comments like that in real life, they usually will hit me on the shoulder or LAUGH. it's more flirting behaviour, but it's a different situation/environment in real life.

looks like i'm going to have to re-adjust my attitude between online and real life situations.
 
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