"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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what age do girls start to mature?

chance

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or isn't there any age? lol. seriously, i'm thinking 25 onwards? like, not so much clubbing/partying anymore you know?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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chance said:
or isn't there any age? lol. seriously, i'm thinking 25 onwards? like, not so much clubbing/partying anymore you know?
From my experience with women they all mature at different ages, some never do.

That said, I think that if I had to pick a general age, I would have to say 25 yeah... Before that age I find that women don't really see things in the right perspective.

Another factor is experience. The more experience a women has, in life and with men, the better she knows herself, and the better she knows what is acceptable and what isn't etc.

But overall, there isn't a set age, but like I said, generally speaking a woman that is between 25 and 30 years of age is normally mature.

Regarding some of my own experiences with women, I find that the things that really determine a woman's maturity level is the way she see's different things, different aspects of a relationship, wants from a guy, & what she see's as being acceptable or not.

A good way to find out if a woman is mature is to ask her what she wants out of life, and what she would like to accomplish before her time here on Earth is over. And on that note, what she looks for in a guy / potential husband / potential father to her children. But try not bring this up yourself, because if she is at a maturity level that is considered to be "mature" then these things should come up in her head naturally.

One factor that I have recently had a little trouble with when dealing with a certain ex of mine, was that she thought that it was okay for her for her to have a desire to be wanted, thus thinking it was okay to still keep her ex on a string knowing he still has strong feelings for her, and stupid things like that, showing a lack of consideration for me (her partner) .. but yeah, I was actually going to start a thread on this issue so I won't hijack this thread hehe..

I hope my reply was somewhat helpful to you.
 

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Women never completely mature. They still act like little kids, even when they are in their forties.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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