"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What age did you lose your virginity?

Spade

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Age? Hotness out of 10? Older or younger? relationship (Hooker, gf, 1night stand)?

I lost it at 19 to an 8, same age, met her at a kegger.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Tiguere

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19 to a 8.0 on the ricter scale.( Fat single mommy she was 21)
 

Tiguere

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19 to a 8.0 on the richter scale.( Fat single mommy she was 21)
 

Tiguere

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19 to a 8.0 on the richter scale.( Fat single mommy she was 21)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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MurdocIsGod

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Sea of regrets:

Could've lost at 11 to a HB6 (and another HB6)
Then at 13 to a HB7
Then at 14 to a HB7.5
Then at 15 to a HB7, a HB6, and a HB7.5
Then at 16 in a THREESOME (lol) and with my best female friend

But alas I was too *****. And yes my rating systems are accurate, as in "HB6" literally means a girl you would look at and think "oh she's pretty cute"

And @ RSanders 5 is average what's wrong with that? People forget 5 is half of 10 thus meaning average.

Also me and my first girlfriend used to strip for each other when we were both 8 (yeah, jesus, there's something wrong with me haha)
 

Nimm

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18, 5-ish and "one night stand" ,public bathroom shhish.....
Ahh.. i remember that night, when i knew she was "down" i ran like the Reaper was chasing me, too 7-eleven to pick up rubbers :rolleyes:
 

Masculinity

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I lost my virginity at 19 with an 8.5 with whom I had an LTR of 2.5 years
 

Warrior74

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19. A nine in my book but she was a head case slut who cheated on me. Thus setting the pattern of my life.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Marvin Gaye

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Age 14. Bipolar freak-ass girl, I probably would have lost it way later if this girl didn't find me; she was chubby and a 7 but a total freak, also I had no idea what I was doing LOL
 

Repentance

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When I was about 7yrs old to a girl in the neighborhood (age6 at that time).

I can't really rate her back then since we were both young; but she is about a 9-9.5 now. She's 18 now, haven't gotten a chance to fcuk her ever since, because we moved apart but I am in contact with her family,etc.

No, I am nor immorally raised. My family and relatives all are highly educated and respected people. This "act" had happened when we had played "doctor doctor" as children did back then.

Weird, cool, you decide. But I swear its true, lol.

Edit: we had sex a total of about 6 times including after her mother found out. But then my family and I moved away and it ended. Once a threesome could've taken place, but her friend (girl) just watched me do her but never joined nor did I ask her (regret . Since the friend is superhot now).
 

Ease

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At 16 with a 7!

Looks like im in the lead, apart from the guy who said 14 which is clearly not healthy.
 

Tortendieb

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At 6 with a 18

I mean at 18 with a 6 (cant remember though... back then I thought she's pretty hot, but met her again and she's now fat and married)
 

BwanaKuu

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Repentance said:
When I was about 7yrs old to a girl in the neighborhood (age6 at that time).

I can't really rate her back then since we were both young; but she is about a 9-9.5 now. She's 18 now, haven't gotten a chance to fcuk her ever since, because we moved apart but I am in contact with her family,etc.

No, I am nor immorally raised. My family and relatives all are highly educated and respected people. This "act" had happened when we had played "doctor doctor" as children did back then.

Weird, cool, you decide. But I swear its true, lol.

Edit: we had sex a total of about 6 times including after her mother found out. But then my family and I moved away and it ended. Once a threesome could've taken place, but her friend (girl) just watched me do her but never joined nor did I ask her (regret . Since the friend is superhot now).
I'm calling bull**** on this one. You guys aren't developed enough at that age to have sex. Can you even get a boner at 7?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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schttrj

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BwanaKuu said:
I'm calling bull**** on this one. You guys aren't developed enough at that age to have sex. Can you even get a boner at 7?
Hahaha...even I was thinking the same. Anyway, age 23 to HB6 (then 15)...But it was not that impressive!
 

getready

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Apparently theres a lot of weird people on this forum...

7 yrs old!? I call bull **** and if not that is seriously ****ed up.

And the dude above me, You were 23 and had sex with a 15 year old?! What the **** is wrong with you! What a loser

Sorry for flaming but come on!

Now as for me, age 16 to a HB 6 in a ONS. Fairly standard. I was drunk and she was tight and I couldnt finish. After like 10 minutes she went to the bathroom to puke and pass out hahaha. But yea i just wanted to lose it. I stepped up from there
 

Gray The Prince

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BwanaKuu said:
I'm calling bull**** on this one. You guys aren't developed enough at that age to have sex. Can you even get a boner at 7?
Yeah, I got my first boner at 6 or 7, don't remember exactly but I did have some boners at a single-digit age.
 

Zodiac

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16 with a 6.... This was before I lost weight (70 pounds, 280 ish to 215 ish now) so a 6 was pretty good to me considering I was probably a 5 at best.
 

bigneil

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19 to a HB9 hitchhiker who asked me to get her pregnant (but I pulled out).
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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