"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What advice at sosuave do you find bull sh!t?

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- any discussion of alpha, of dominance in a group setting, etc is all bull to me.

- Also these people claiming 5 "plates" and saying you should be seeing a different girl each night -- it's good to not have all your eggs in one basket, but in my experience it's not even worth your time to balance between 3+ girls at once. It's completely impractical. Maybe it's just me but I can't do that with my career and all the things going on in my life.

- text haters. I don't text much at all but let's face it, it's something you can be good at if you choose to incorporate it. Get with the times.

I don't really follow any of the rules or advice from this forum. It was good as "training wheels" when I was younger, but now I just see a lot of useless misogyny. It's sad that people who ultimately would like to be with women and get better with women don't even enjoy the company of women.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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handle said:
- any discussion of alpha, of dominance in a group setting, etc is all bull to me.

- Also these people claiming 5 "plates" and saying you should be seeing a different girl each night -- it's good to not have all your eggs in one basket, but in my experience it's not even worth your time to balance between 3+ girls at once. It's completely impractical. Maybe it's just me but I can't do that with my career and all the things going on in my life.

- text haters. I don't text much at all but let's face it, it's something you can be good at if you choose to incorporate it. Get with the times.

I don't really follow any of the rules or advice from this forum. It was good as "training wheels" when I was younger, but now I just see a lot of useless misogyny. It's sad that people who ultimately would like to be with women and get better with women don't even enjoy the company of women.



enjoying the company of women.... I think this is overlooked on this site. We all come here to get over an ex, get better with women, lose AA , etc but in all this do we lose the ability to have fun and enjoy being with a women? I think a lot of us who are in the earlier stages of DJ hood focus more on the non emotion type deal so we dont get hurt again but it leads to us just using women as objects for sex without even realizing it. Thats the one thing that SHOULDNT be overlooked because it is the one thing that is the most fun about a women, enjoying her company as she enjoys yours.
 

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Everything with a rules embedded in it. It's fun to watch babies crawl but as we grow up still crawling is a sign of retardation. There are no rules, no manuel like Pook said. When you use rules you sign your own death sentance by becoming borring.
 

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The only "rules" you need are the 3 C's.

1. Challenge
2. Confidence
3. Control

All the other so called rules and theory stem from these three basic principles. It IS that simple!

Sadly, the very nature of this site attracts the type of guys who like to WAY over analyze things to death. Everyone thinks they are going to reinvent the wheel with some new idea with a catchy name. Yet all the theory you need to be successful with women is right HERE.

All the advice is good but however it's about how, when, and to whom you apply it to. These are things you need to learn on your own and nobody on an advice forum can help you with that.

The average guy on SS would do better just learning some basic social skills rather than focusing on women or theory. If you aren't really good at starting conversations with random strangers how do you expect to pick up chicks.

The advice here is good, it's just not used properly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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- alpha. enough said. keyboard jockeys can never be alpha. Be yourself, but the best damn self you can be.

- women are evil. The biggest one. People have no problem pointing out women's deficiencies, but than gloss over our own. Heck, there was a thread about a guy who was trying to bang a women who's husband was in Iraq. For every women with ****ty behavior is a man enabling said ****ty behavior. We need to lead by example rather than point fingers.

- No contact. If a chick doesn't like you, she doesn't like you. Keeping contact to a minimum IS useful, but playing ganji games or whatever they are is just juvenile. The goal is to get laid, if you aren't getting laid move on. (as a side note, I feel that stopping contact after a breakup is a helpful tool for moving on. As a means to seduce, not so much)

And someone else already said it, but having real experience helps back up claims. I try and incorporate real stories into whatever sort of ideas I propose. Some people just regurgitate 'theory' which holds no real merit.
 

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No contact definitely works if implemented correctly. I've had experiences of both doing it right and wrong. But I think it has to be quite natural and not obviously forced.

The alpha thing people do go over the top with, but the basic principles are correct. Again i've had experiences of feeling crap and "like a boss". And you can guess which moments I did the most pulling...

Again I feel you can't force yourself to be "alpha" is it becomes obvious to everyone. By alpha I mean just confident, fun, happy and having respect from people. That's my perception of it anyway.
 

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Wanted to add one thing: I think specific "rules" or "techniques" are ok for beginners. Let's not get it twisted, sometimes you need practical, real life things you can do aside from general advice like 'just become a better person'. BUT in the long run the rules should become less and less important.
 

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handle said:
- Also these people claiming 5 "plates" and saying you should be seeing a different girl each night -- it's good to not have all your eggs in one basket, but in my experience it's not even worth your time to balance between 3+ girls at once. It's completely impractical. Maybe it's just me but I can't do that with my career and all the things going on in my life.
I spun plates in my mid to late 20s, and I think it is a good practice, but it IS somewhat time consuming. At other times when I was busier I was just as happy to go through girls on a serial monogamy basis.

And truthfully, these days I think I'd have a hard enough time finding ONE girl that I actually like enough to hang out with, let alone five of them.

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- alpha. enough said. keyboard jockeys can never be alpha. Be yourself, but the best damn self you can be.
I don't think the alpha concept really translates well into the modern world. There are so many different facets and variables in modern life. A guy may be alpha in the office but not in the social circle, or vice versa.

As for the traditional caveman alpha who ruled the tribe with brute force, we're forgetting he most likely often had a very short reign, because all the betas would get sick of his tyranny and band together and kill him.

As for all the women he screwed, was this really because of attraction or just that they had no choice in the matter? As Burroughs is fond of saying, throughout most of history women were treated more like property than equals.
 

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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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