"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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what about lesbians?

Aquatico

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I've been reading alot of the the "reading material" for the boot camp. And a lot of the articles include a certain fact: That attracting females requires masculinity. I fully agree with that, and I base all of my actions on that fact.

But I was wondering, what is going on in the case of lesbianism? I kow some can be masculine, but I also know they can be alot more feminine than straight girls.

And since there's proof that some women can prefer feminine qualities, maybe some would prefer the "Nice guy" as a sex object.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sure it is possible. But I doubt that it's what girls will generally go for. The really 'nice' guys just don't tend to get girls excited.
 

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Originally posted by Aquatico
I've been reading alot of the the "reading material" for the boot camp. And a lot of the articles include a certain fact: That attracting females requires masculinity. I fully agree with that, and I base all of my actions on that fact.

But I was wondering, what is going on in the case of lesbianism? I kow some can be masculine, but I also know they can be alot more feminine than straight girls.

And since there's proof that some women can prefer feminine qualities, maybe some would prefer the "Nice guy" as a sex object.

don't confuse "nice guy" -putting girls on a pedastal ,sucking up,clingy needy BS-with the "sweet boy" ,with a depth of untapped raw sexual energy laying beneath the cloak of innocence...in other words,highly sexually aware and curious but just kinda shy.
girls go nuts over that s*it and they can sense that raw sexual energy.

for an example-
when i was much younger & more shy , i noticed that girls
took a liking to me- even though i had been horribly shy and
really kinda scared but sexually charged in the presence
of girls. I don't rememeber the details but i rememebr looking
at the girls looking down at my feet alot and blushing.

for some odd reason it made girls crazy with affection,
not soo much sexual -i was about 6-13 when i was like this.
and i noticed i was labeled as "really sweet".
i think my teachers would kinda pick up on it too
because i'd give her an apple and i'd kinda stand
there blushing waiting for a hug..i always got one.
and i still remeber her huge knockers.
i had made ALOT of female friends since i was about 8
and a majority of them had had crushes on me.
i had a lil girlfriend in 2nd grade and was her lil
"sweet heart".
it wasn't until about 13 til i started to get ret into trouble-
but that had nothing to do with females...
(wannabe hard "tough kid" s**t,you know.."guy stuff")


ALOT of girls love sweet guys...trust me.
not everygirl wants a alpha male he-man idiot all the time...


there is a difference between "nice" and "sweet"-
be "sweet" and girls love you
be "nice" and girls dread you.


from experiance- i'd say that the sweet guy triggers romantic
tendencies inside of a woman,
like passion ,warmth and sexual affection.
 

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Oh, it's true, women want sweet guys. But women want lots of things, and they're innately contradictory creatures. They may want a guy to be sweet, but when they see a guy, his sweetness isn't going to turn them on that much. That sort of stuff is nice later on in a relationship, but you won't get that far if that's your first impression.
 

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Originally posted by Sophomakhos
Oh, it's true, women want sweet guys. But women want lots of things, and they're innately contradictory creatures. They may want a guy to be sweet, but when they see a guy, his sweetness isn't going to turn them on that much. That sort of stuff is nice later on in a relationship, but you won't get that far if that's your first impression.

i've made girls flush with excitement by just looking at them-
there a sweetness with a touch of dangerous sexuality behind
it that drives woman wild...
not "sweet" as in cookies & cream or a dork s*it.
my definition of "sweet" may differ from everyone elses...

"sweetness" with a touch of dangerous sexuality makes woman
wet...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by organizedconfusion
i've made girls flush with excitement by just looking at them-
there a sweetness with a touch of dangerous sexuality behind
it that drives woman wild...
not "sweet" as in cookies & cream or a dork s*it.
my definition of "sweet" may differ from everyone elses...

"sweetness" with a touch of dangerous sexuality makes woman
wet...
meaning?:confused:
 

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..imagine the last really really "sweet" girl you saw
& you just "knew" she was a firecracker in bed-
just by looking at her. witout even talking to her
or saying a word there was something sexy about her
and you could'nt really put your finger on it.
But behind that innocent demeanor you could
just sense a sexual depth inside her.


now imagine it's MALE EQUIVLIENCY-
THAT is MY definition of SWEETNESS with a touch of DANGEROUS
SEXUALITY...

i am NOT saying that it's the only angle to work with but
but some guys that are naturally shy could possibly
use their shyness/sweetness to their advantage and kinda
learn how to hone all that sexual energy into something
usefull- instead of needy desperation and approval
seeking. Keeping the power for himself and transforming it
to create a naturalized type of attraction.
 

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Originally posted by Aquatico
I've been reading alot of the the "reading material" for the boot camp. And a lot of the articles include a certain fact: That attracting females requires masculinity. I fully agree with that, and I base all of my actions on that fact.

But I was wondering, what is going on in the case of lesbianism? I kow some can be masculine, but I also know they can be alot more feminine than straight girls.

And since there's proof that some women can prefer feminine qualities, maybe some would prefer the "Nice guy" as a sex object.
All women are feminine but there is a degree of femininty. Some have 90% (very feminine) and some 20% (very butch masculine).

Where it the proof of STRIGHT women choosing a feminine guy over a masculine guy?? If woman are telling you that, its because they are either lying to you, lying to themselves or they just settled for some feminine chump because a masculine guy wouldn't touch them.

In case of lesbianism, the majority of REAL lesbians are very butch and masculine like. The other feminine ones are not usually real lesbians because some of them sleep with guys as well and and many others were sexually assualted by men in their early years. Is it any wonder why lots of strippers and porn actresses are bisexuals?? Do you think they came from a good environment/home?? They are messed up. You have been watching too much television that glamorizes feminine lesbians.

Masculinty is not required for lesbians to attract one another and neither does femininty. Those two qualites are nesseccsary in hetrosexual couples to ensure that the offspring will have the best of both worlds and thus have a better chance of survival. Lesbians do not have kids!! their reason of choice is purely on a sexual basis!! They can meet up and within 5 minutes can go off somewhere and have sex. Why? because there isn't any long term planning happening here (such as having a baby which is the whole purpose of sex other then pleasure.)

Be a nice guy but be a nice guy with balls who won't take anyone's sh1t.

DjDamage
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Every Girl seems to have a trace of lesbianity in her now :( (yes it's a word in my mind) thanks a lot homosexuality embracing society!:cuss:
 
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