"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What a disaster (venting)

jt4aa

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In every other aspect of my life I can take charge. I'm an alpha male - dominant, powerful, respected. But when it comes to women I just can't stop being passive. THIS is my problem.

I still haven't got any sex after my last post which was about 2 months ago. Been over a year now.

Had a night of sex offered to me on a plate last weekend and i went out clubbing instead - (even at the club i saw fit girls interested but i just stand there like a ****ing lemon as always). Just spent all of tonight trying to get with the same girl but she ended up saying that i was acting like a girl coz i wouldn't say what i wanted - and she's ****ing right. I mean this is me to a T.

I spend ages trying to get it but when girls express interest i go on a power trip and don't collect. What do you guys do in a situation like that? Oppurtunities are everywhere but I can't seem to take charge and ****ing take what i want!

ARRRRRG!

I'm so frustrated with myself!

I've been stuck in this ****ing cycle for 4 years. It needs to stop dammit!


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Someone ****ing smack me outta this! I need it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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HalfAddict

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*slap*

*shake*

Snap outta it man, If your so ****in dominant act like it..

Remember theres at least a 2:1 ratio women to men... So if you piss one off there's always another, thats how I look at it, I don't put up with some whining.
 

ScrewIt

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Originally posted by jt4aa
In every other aspect of my life I can take charge. I'm an alpha male - dominant, powerful, respected. But when it comes to women I just can't stop being passive. THIS is my problem.

hmm..sounds like an oxymoron.

How can you be an alphamale and passive with the ladies at the same time?

You're probably just holding yourself back cause you want their approval or fear of rejection. Believe me they'll respect you more when you speak your mind. And they'll be the ones that fear pissing you off. Just do/say what feels right.

If you wanna kino them kino them, if you want to kiss them go for it, dont ask just do it.
 

tmpgstx

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I don't know that its you being passive has all that much to do with it. They may be intimidated by you so the only time they really show you their interest is when they are drunk.

It sux, i know. There are many guys who are passive though who have women asking them out! They make it easy for the guy where he doesn't have to do much, if nothing, and has to just say yes to going out or not when invited. She does all the work in getting him.

The guys i know that have no trouble getting dates and girls - the girls ask them out, or somehow make it known to the guy that they like him alot. It's that 'i gotta have him' mentality that keeps them persisting.

Use your passivness to your advantage by having them do most of the talking and just agreeing with what they say by saying the same thing yet with a different perspective and then only ask a few open ended questions here and there.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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