"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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what 2 do when u know she is not feeling me

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i know that this girl i am friends with is not feeling me as anything more than a friend. she has a bf. i want 2 stay fri3nds with her but not to the point where i have absolutely no hope for anything else in da future. how do i handle this??
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You're in the Friend Zone from what you've posted.
If its worth attempting a turnaround, then go for it slowly and ratchet up when the borefriend is gone.

Otherwise, turn her into a pivot and help you get other girls when you go out. She may or may not become competitive for your attention, but nothing is guaranteed. I can't think of anything else because I dont put up with this sort of crap.
 

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Sometimes, less is more.

I would say the opposite of what you would do if you were feeling her and you were a BAFC. Just dont be a p3nis to her. Unless you're giving her the sausage special.
 

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to da lord man

can u b more specific? should i tell her 1) i be ****in other girls 2) should i ask her out on lots of dates 3) call her: how often and 4) what do i do wh3n she tells me about her bf
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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BadBoyCoolMan said:
can u b more specific? should i tell her 1) i be ****in other girls 2) should i ask her out on lots of dates 3) call her: how often and 4) what do i do wh3n she tells me about her bf
Alot of these are judgement calls, but think outside the box with my suggestions. Honestly, I wouldn't bother unless this was the sexiest girl on the planet, and God himself told me this was my soulmate and I would never get bored with her not even for 5 minutes, but hey, this is your call.

1) No, dont tell her you're schtupping other girls. Subtly make it known that you are wanted and begin using DHV (and negs, if necessary. For definitions, go to the bible link at the bottom of the page and get reading.)

2) No. Unless you want to leave the friendzone and enter Chumpville, where you will become an errand boy and the most you get is a hug for doing stuff for her.

3) Call her when you see fit. Depending on how far in you are, I would start limiting my availability and begin making myself scarce. When you do call, make sure you are in a noisy enough venue so it sounds like you would have to get off at any moment, or if you text, mirror the time it takes for her to send replies to yours. If its hours, dont bother sending it, especially if you know she was just sitting on her @$$.

4) Change the subject. You arent an emotional tampon and you have a cack, not a pus. You dont need to hear it, but dont say those exact words.

Example:

HER: BLAH BLAH, Thomas and I are blah blah blah.
You: I like soup, do you like soup?

Just remember to not lower your value, always raise it and make her see what shes missing.
 

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a litle more info for lord thanks man

1. This girl is Looks: 8 (former head cheerleader but a lil thick). Personality: 10. Age 20.

2. I met her through her mom-my coworker. her mom and i are cool and talk about everything. mom knows i ****ed 17 hoes already. i told her myself.

3. mom gave my info to daughter. daughter called me and came over to my apartment for tutoring on math (i have a college degree and she is in college)

4. only other interaction ahs been my best homegirl;s b-day party i invited her to last weekend. she ditched her plans and agreed to go with me. i dunno if she did it since i helped her on da math or for other reasons. i had gotten laid the previous night and she saw the hickies on my neck but made no comment. i think i made a huge error. at the end of the night when she dropped me off at my place i said the followin words very cooly "i would kiss you but i know you have a boyfriend" she smiled but said nothing. then she thanked me for taking her out.

5. i know she only sees me as a friend and i dont want to **** up our friendship but at the same time i want to keep the doors open for the future. i hope this additional info helps
 

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This sounds like that other thread.

Anyway, dude, forget it, get another chick just dont be mean to this one. If you pull off a turnaround, this will become your own personal Vietnam in the process. Just walk away while you still got something, and chip away at the friendzone as your gaming other girls, which will be twofold.

1) She will see that you are wanted, which will spark some interest as well as you showing DHV without having to say or do anything.

2) Will make her curious as to what you're selling.

You sound like you're getting oneitis. Walk away from the oneitis before you get sucked back to the dark side.
 

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isnt this the same thread you just posted??

You know what you should do? NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXTTTT!!!!
 

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oneitis lol

i like that one. yea u right. i should not trip over her.

please dont beat me up but how stupid was my statement to her "i would kiss you if u didnt have a bf"

ok
bad
real bad
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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BadBoyCoolMan said:
i like that one. yea u right. i should not trip over her.

please dont beat me up but how stupid was my statement to her "i would kiss you if u didnt have a bf"

ok
bad
real bad
First step to solving the problem is admitting you have one.
 
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