WestCoast1492
Don Juan
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Hey, everyone. Been lurking on these boards a LONG TIME, only getting into some serious action the last month. Have to overcome some years of bad social programming (shyness WITH GIRLS, etc), but i'm making some quick gains.
I figure an online journal will help me with any of my anxiety. But anyways. I'll start with the 3rd of my NYC sarge trips, since it's fresh on my mind.
A quick disclaimer: My memory isn't amazing, so these logs are as close as i can remember. I probably did leave out a line or two.
I met up with Camden, and G-$ at around 2 pm in NYC. Camden has a good 6 monthes exp under his belt, and has pretty tight game. G-$ and I are more newbies, and although we have potential are still getting our feet wet. It was pouring rain, Camden came up with the bright idea of the NYC Met Museum. GREAT DECISION (target wise).
We do some warm ups, where we just ask like 3 diff sets if there is a coffee shop around. Just to get out some of the jitters. Really a question, a quick comment and that's it. The way I see it, it's like going to the gym, you do 1 set of 25 lbs before going to 50 lbs. That little tip has really helped me out, props to Camden for that one.
Next we played a fun game. A wing your with HAS to pick your set. Something about this concept, has also struck a good chord with me. You treat it like a game. You have to approach, unless you fear she is with someone, which i noticed a few times (and i was never wrong either). OR if she is walking in the other direction, which was a problem, b/c G-$ picked me a few that were racing the other way, and at this stage I just can't stop them.
We went in order, i hit lead off, G-$ hit second, Camden rounded it.
Camden points at a chick as we walk by her in an early exhibit. I see that she's asian, and I think just great i don't really like asian girls. Ehh **** it, this is just a game.
Approach 1:
HB 5 Asian Chick.
I saw her with a notebook by an exhibit. I immediately think of a great opener, b/c i see so many students around.
West: Hey, are you doing something for class
HB5: Yeah, unfortuanetly.
West: Yeah, i had to do that last year for my class.
HB5: Ahhh
West: Only i didn't go to the museum, i had a friend go for me.
HB5:Really wow.. that's a good idea
West: Yeah, but looking at this stuff now, maybe i wished I had gone. You don't go to RU do you?
HB5: No I go to John Jay.
West: A crim justice college, what are you doing here!
HB5:I know it sucks, i have to take this for a requirement.
West: Where are your handcuffs, you go to a criminal justice college don't you. No Mase?
HB5: (laughing) no i forgot it.
Then she starts to walk away and says "good luck", I smile and say "thanks".
Really not to bad overall.. 3-5 min conversation and i wasn't really attracted to her was just playing the game.
Approach 2:
HB6 european girl
I see her taking pictures of an exhibit that is in a glass case..
West: Hey, i didn't know you were allowed to bring cameras in here.
HB6: (looks at me). Yeah, it's ok
West: Damn, i wish i did. I mean i have a camera on my cell phone, but that's no fun.
HB6: No it's cool, i mean theres other people here who are doing it
West: So get any good photos in there?
HB6: Theres so many
West: Oh My God, it's so overwhelming in here isn't it?
HB6: Yes
West: So you have an accent, where are you from
HB6: (about to respond)
West: Let me guess. Romania?
HB6: No, your close
West: I give up
HB6: Austria
West: Austria.. you speak German.. see i knew that there's no such thing as Austrian
HB6: (laughing) (BAMMM her 3 friends surround her.. I panic..)
West: Alright, well good luck with your camera..
DAMN IT. Major sticking point, don't eject just b/c her back up arrives. G-$ and Camden later said maybe they should have jumped in, but that was my fault.
Approach 3:
HB7 Red Jacket Girl
We are walking by this egyptian archteciture stuff in the middle. Camden notices lone wolf girl in red jacket, walking near the window, staring out. He comments, "Wow.. that would be movie like to approach her." I say, "ok see ya". I begin to follow her as she walks by the window. This is one annoying thing about day game, you have to hound them down sometimes.
I start to hear a security guy yell "Museum is closing, everyone has to go home." I'm thinking, damn it, i have to get this one in.. ::GULP:: HB7 is standing near me now, staring at the big building exhibit. I walk around in a circle, approach her from an angle.
West: Hey, do you think that is a real egyptian archtiectural thing, or a replica
HB7: I think it's real
West: Wow.. i mean how do you fly something like that in
HB7: Well i'm not sure but i think it is real
Security guy screams at us, "MUSEUM IS CLOSING." This irritates me, and throws me off big time. HB7 starts to walk a little.
West.. blah blah blah
HB7: You know you should ask a security guard, i bet they know (i can take a hint).
West:alright thanks.
This approach i actually really liked how she looked. Probably should have used something about her bright ass jacket. But you live and learn.
We leave the Museum after a few hours (Camden and G-$ each get a few approaches in as well). I have a huge buzz after 3 approaches, it's strange to describe. I just felt really confident. I was boasting of doing a DIRECT approach on my next attempt.
A major venue change was in store, as we traversed from the east side to the west wide (went to Virgin Record Store in Times Square, a trip of about 20-30 min with the walk to Camden's car).
Approach 4:
In the record store, I start to feel myself getting that A.A back. It's annoying as ****. Camden described his A.A being something in his chest. G-$ said it's in his eyes (he blinks a lot.. strange you say.. don't ask!). I told them my A.A. is a knot in the pit of my stomach.
We go down the escalator, see a decent girl looking at some DVDs. Camden points, and i'm off to work. I grab a Family Guy Season 1-2 as a prop and approach her from the right side.
West: Excuse me, i need an opinion on something
Average Girl: Yeah
West: Do you think this DVD would be a good gift for my friend. He's a big family guy fan.
Average Girl. Well it might be.
West: The thing is, i don't want to look cheap b/c he could download these episodes off the internet (this was all random,winged ****..)
Average Girl: I don't know your friend, so it's hard for me to comment.
You ever get that feeling that a set is going nowhere. That you can't get past the opener. Well based on that i bailed.
West: Alright, well thanks for your opinion I appreciate it.
After this approach, i'm dead set on knocking out my first direct approach ever. The line I was planning on using was "Hi, I couldn't think of anything good to say, but I just wanted to meet you." (credit to whoever said it once on SoSuave).
I really do value boldness and courage. I feel that If I can just tell a girl how i feel straight up, i'm skipping all the bull****. Alas.
I must scan the Virgin Record store for 30 minutes, can not find a girl i find attractive enough. Another aside, i only want to use a direct on a lone wolf who i consider cute.
Camden, G-$, and I sit down to eat. We finally go upstairs, and say once last round and if we find nothing we'll leave.
Spot HB7 lone wolf wandering around. BINGO BINGO..
I spot her by some shirts.. I see a guy near her, so i reason oo he's to close to her. Then she comes closer. And there is an old lady near her, so i dont' want her to hear it. For some reason, I can not pull the trigger on the direct approach!!
Then she is all alone, i start to think she is probably on to me. I turn to G-$ and say "every time in my life i get a situation like this i chicken out." I turn and walk towards her.
Here's the moment in the movie where the wuss grows balls and gets the girl. But this video is rated G so far.
I walk RIGHT PAST HER, i hear myself saying the opener (anyone ever have this happen to them!!) but i can't get it out. I'm too afraid to use direct.
I tell Camden and G-$ that we should leave. I'm dissapointed in myself. Camden lets me in on a good lesson.
Direct is a whole new ball game than Indirect, and that I should do at least 25-50 more indirect before I try any Direct stuff. Man i tried benching 200 lbs before i was ready.
If you haven't noticed i like using sports and gym references.
Overall: An OK day. I got 4 approaches in, thats 4 more than i used to do. I got about 4 the week before, with similar results. A few short convo's, but no #'s.
Right now, i reasoned that i'm a beginner, and that the fact that i'm approaching is ok. But I need to build some rapport, and get into more ****y material. I've had more success with that during night game, it's just so hard during the day. But I also appreciate that I can approach solely lone wolves, and there is no chance of a **** block. It's a double edged sword i guess.
WORK ON:
1) I'm asking so many damn questions. What can I say, i was a journalism major in college, and i can small talk pretty good with it.
2) More ****y/funny
3)Try a direct just once in my life
4) MORE APPROACHES, MORE PRACTICE!!!
Any comments/questions appreciated.
I figure an online journal will help me with any of my anxiety. But anyways. I'll start with the 3rd of my NYC sarge trips, since it's fresh on my mind.
A quick disclaimer: My memory isn't amazing, so these logs are as close as i can remember. I probably did leave out a line or two.
I met up with Camden, and G-$ at around 2 pm in NYC. Camden has a good 6 monthes exp under his belt, and has pretty tight game. G-$ and I are more newbies, and although we have potential are still getting our feet wet. It was pouring rain, Camden came up with the bright idea of the NYC Met Museum. GREAT DECISION (target wise).
We do some warm ups, where we just ask like 3 diff sets if there is a coffee shop around. Just to get out some of the jitters. Really a question, a quick comment and that's it. The way I see it, it's like going to the gym, you do 1 set of 25 lbs before going to 50 lbs. That little tip has really helped me out, props to Camden for that one.
Next we played a fun game. A wing your with HAS to pick your set. Something about this concept, has also struck a good chord with me. You treat it like a game. You have to approach, unless you fear she is with someone, which i noticed a few times (and i was never wrong either). OR if she is walking in the other direction, which was a problem, b/c G-$ picked me a few that were racing the other way, and at this stage I just can't stop them.
We went in order, i hit lead off, G-$ hit second, Camden rounded it.
Camden points at a chick as we walk by her in an early exhibit. I see that she's asian, and I think just great i don't really like asian girls. Ehh **** it, this is just a game.
Approach 1:
HB 5 Asian Chick.
I saw her with a notebook by an exhibit. I immediately think of a great opener, b/c i see so many students around.
West: Hey, are you doing something for class
HB5: Yeah, unfortuanetly.
West: Yeah, i had to do that last year for my class.
HB5: Ahhh
West: Only i didn't go to the museum, i had a friend go for me.
HB5:Really wow.. that's a good idea
West: Yeah, but looking at this stuff now, maybe i wished I had gone. You don't go to RU do you?
HB5: No I go to John Jay.
West: A crim justice college, what are you doing here!
HB5:I know it sucks, i have to take this for a requirement.
West: Where are your handcuffs, you go to a criminal justice college don't you. No Mase?
HB5: (laughing) no i forgot it.
Then she starts to walk away and says "good luck", I smile and say "thanks".
Really not to bad overall.. 3-5 min conversation and i wasn't really attracted to her was just playing the game.
Approach 2:
HB6 european girl
I see her taking pictures of an exhibit that is in a glass case..
West: Hey, i didn't know you were allowed to bring cameras in here.
HB6: (looks at me). Yeah, it's ok
West: Damn, i wish i did. I mean i have a camera on my cell phone, but that's no fun.
HB6: No it's cool, i mean theres other people here who are doing it
West: So get any good photos in there?
HB6: Theres so many
West: Oh My God, it's so overwhelming in here isn't it?
HB6: Yes
West: So you have an accent, where are you from
HB6: (about to respond)
West: Let me guess. Romania?
HB6: No, your close
West: I give up
HB6: Austria
West: Austria.. you speak German.. see i knew that there's no such thing as Austrian
HB6: (laughing) (BAMMM her 3 friends surround her.. I panic..)
West: Alright, well good luck with your camera..
DAMN IT. Major sticking point, don't eject just b/c her back up arrives. G-$ and Camden later said maybe they should have jumped in, but that was my fault.
Approach 3:
HB7 Red Jacket Girl
We are walking by this egyptian archteciture stuff in the middle. Camden notices lone wolf girl in red jacket, walking near the window, staring out. He comments, "Wow.. that would be movie like to approach her." I say, "ok see ya". I begin to follow her as she walks by the window. This is one annoying thing about day game, you have to hound them down sometimes.
I start to hear a security guy yell "Museum is closing, everyone has to go home." I'm thinking, damn it, i have to get this one in.. ::GULP:: HB7 is standing near me now, staring at the big building exhibit. I walk around in a circle, approach her from an angle.
West: Hey, do you think that is a real egyptian archtiectural thing, or a replica
HB7: I think it's real
West: Wow.. i mean how do you fly something like that in
HB7: Well i'm not sure but i think it is real
Security guy screams at us, "MUSEUM IS CLOSING." This irritates me, and throws me off big time. HB7 starts to walk a little.
West.. blah blah blah
HB7: You know you should ask a security guard, i bet they know (i can take a hint).
West:alright thanks.
This approach i actually really liked how she looked. Probably should have used something about her bright ass jacket. But you live and learn.
We leave the Museum after a few hours (Camden and G-$ each get a few approaches in as well). I have a huge buzz after 3 approaches, it's strange to describe. I just felt really confident. I was boasting of doing a DIRECT approach on my next attempt.
A major venue change was in store, as we traversed from the east side to the west wide (went to Virgin Record Store in Times Square, a trip of about 20-30 min with the walk to Camden's car).
Approach 4:
In the record store, I start to feel myself getting that A.A back. It's annoying as ****. Camden described his A.A being something in his chest. G-$ said it's in his eyes (he blinks a lot.. strange you say.. don't ask!). I told them my A.A. is a knot in the pit of my stomach.
We go down the escalator, see a decent girl looking at some DVDs. Camden points, and i'm off to work. I grab a Family Guy Season 1-2 as a prop and approach her from the right side.
West: Excuse me, i need an opinion on something
Average Girl: Yeah
West: Do you think this DVD would be a good gift for my friend. He's a big family guy fan.
Average Girl. Well it might be.
West: The thing is, i don't want to look cheap b/c he could download these episodes off the internet (this was all random,winged ****..)
Average Girl: I don't know your friend, so it's hard for me to comment.
You ever get that feeling that a set is going nowhere. That you can't get past the opener. Well based on that i bailed.
West: Alright, well thanks for your opinion I appreciate it.
After this approach, i'm dead set on knocking out my first direct approach ever. The line I was planning on using was "Hi, I couldn't think of anything good to say, but I just wanted to meet you." (credit to whoever said it once on SoSuave).
I really do value boldness and courage. I feel that If I can just tell a girl how i feel straight up, i'm skipping all the bull****. Alas.
I must scan the Virgin Record store for 30 minutes, can not find a girl i find attractive enough. Another aside, i only want to use a direct on a lone wolf who i consider cute.
Camden, G-$, and I sit down to eat. We finally go upstairs, and say once last round and if we find nothing we'll leave.
Spot HB7 lone wolf wandering around. BINGO BINGO..
I spot her by some shirts.. I see a guy near her, so i reason oo he's to close to her. Then she comes closer. And there is an old lady near her, so i dont' want her to hear it. For some reason, I can not pull the trigger on the direct approach!!
Then she is all alone, i start to think she is probably on to me. I turn to G-$ and say "every time in my life i get a situation like this i chicken out." I turn and walk towards her.
Here's the moment in the movie where the wuss grows balls and gets the girl. But this video is rated G so far.
I walk RIGHT PAST HER, i hear myself saying the opener (anyone ever have this happen to them!!) but i can't get it out. I'm too afraid to use direct.
I tell Camden and G-$ that we should leave. I'm dissapointed in myself. Camden lets me in on a good lesson.
Direct is a whole new ball game than Indirect, and that I should do at least 25-50 more indirect before I try any Direct stuff. Man i tried benching 200 lbs before i was ready.
If you haven't noticed i like using sports and gym references.
Overall: An OK day. I got 4 approaches in, thats 4 more than i used to do. I got about 4 the week before, with similar results. A few short convo's, but no #'s.
Right now, i reasoned that i'm a beginner, and that the fact that i'm approaching is ok. But I need to build some rapport, and get into more ****y material. I've had more success with that during night game, it's just so hard during the day. But I also appreciate that I can approach solely lone wolves, and there is no chance of a **** block. It's a double edged sword i guess.
WORK ON:
1) I'm asking so many damn questions. What can I say, i was a journalism major in college, and i can small talk pretty good with it.
2) More ****y/funny
3)Try a direct just once in my life
4) MORE APPROACHES, MORE PRACTICE!!!
Any comments/questions appreciated.