"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Zippy

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I'm 19 now, and in college. I'm just curious if anyone else is/was like this in high school.

I was invisible and didn't really matter to anyone. I still wish I could have my 4 years back. It didn't matter how confident I was, or how good I looked, I was the ultimate chick repellent. It always seemed like other guys could do absolutely nothing and get chicks at complete random. When another guy liked a girl, it was "cute". If I - God for bid - liked someone, the girl would reprogram herself to hate me just because I liked her. She didn't have to know who I was or anything. The second you step foot in a high school, ALL logic reverses. During my high school time, I made a suicide attempt, and lived through it. Either I'm invincible, or just very unlucky. I was always seen as "weird".

Not much of that changed, but after this college gives me my 4 years of software engineering experience, I'll have a 100% of getting a job. Yes, it's actually 100%, nothing lower.

Did anyone else live a high school life similar to this? Or anything close? Were you right in the middle of popularity and being an outcast? Were you Mr. Hot-**** Popular and got everything handed to you?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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jeffthechef

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i think you two things happened or didn't happen

1. you never accepted yourself
people are mirrors of each other...its been proven in many studies and stated in many philosophies...you may be ocnfident, sexy, rich, all that ****...but you may have never liked yourself...and it shows

2. you desired too much
you tried to fit in, you tried to get attention, you tried to do all that
the thing is...there's a difference between caring and obsession...if you released any attachment to anything..you would have never felt sad or lonely...

the popular life isn't what's best for everyone...
 

danthemann

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man i was pretty much like you with some differences. my first 3 years i was just a kid with inschool friends and i came home and played video games all day. Half way through my 3rd year i started partying when i got my car. and senior year i made it my goal to get a gf and get laid. i reached my goal.. my point is i wish i had my first 3 years of high school back to do all over again. but i reached my goal eventually.
 

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I think most everyone regrets some portion of their High School experience.

My Freshmen year and Sophmore year I had plenty of female friends but nobody to ****. I was too much of a nice guy. All of my female friends tended to walk all over me and laughed at the idea of me as their boyfriend. They would tell me how badly their boyfriend treated them and I would tell them they "deserve better", but I never got laid. In my nice guy logic I thought being nice, sucking up them, and generally being an afc was the way to get women.

When that didn't work, I thought it was just a problem with my personal appearance and worked on that, little did I know it was a personality issue.

Half way through my Junior year I met an arrogant dude who's now my best friend, he started banging into my head a concept that was completely alien to me: that women don't like nice guys. Around that point I began realizing that everything I've been taught by my mom, female friends, and every other female in my life was WRONG. It quickly led to that startling realization that women don't know what they want, but it definitely isn't a nice guy.

I read David Deangelos material, learned how to flirt, accepted my sexual nature and my natural ****y and funny personality, which I always tried to suppress around women. This year, I had sex for the first time and had my first girlfriend. I actually enjoy coming to school whereas in past years I dreaded going to school. I feel like I can end my High school experience on a good note. I just wish I didn't waste those first 2 and a half years.
 

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Juice09 said:
This year, I had sex for the first time and had my first girlfriend.
What I'd give for that. Being 19, never had a girlfriend, and a virgin. I've given up going for women, which will save me some wasted time. I'm gonna retry suicide.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm in the Mood

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Zippy said:
What I'd give for that. Being 19, never had a girlfriend, and a virgin. I've given up going for women, which will save me some wasted time. I'm gonna retry suicide.
Don't. If you wanna turn your life into something meaningful, set goals for yourself and accomplish them no matter what it takes.

You're at the bottom anyway, you have NOTHING to lose.
Start working out, meeting new people both guys and girls, reading, writing, getting into new social hobbies. I want to see you try going to a public place and sitting down next to somebody you've never seen before and starting a conversation. You'll feel GREAT afterwards.

Man you need to build your social life. Develop yourself enough to show women that you have A WHOLE LOT to lose, and they'll want to be a part of your life because of this.

It's all up to you, if you wanna fail and never get a second chance or stop caring about what people think of you so much and make yourself into a person that YOU can be proud of.
 

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dude I can say I was actually just like you. Heres how it went for me.
6th grade: total tud popular with everybody
7th grade: all my friends made new friends. lonelly, and not meeting new ppl.
8th grade: social reject and outcast.
9th grade: decided to stop doing what im doing, come to facts with the FACT that I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING to change, not just ***** about it.
10th grade: Started pickup, socially awkwards, but gained friends
11th grade: Socially acceptable alot of friends and girls like me.
12th grade: Total 180 from beggining. Freedom to be who I want to be, lots of new hobbies, friends and everything, life is so much better now.

You need to man up though and take action. Start lifting, that got me through every dip doubt I had in my transformation, and absorb everything you can from this and other sites. You will get addicted I can almost guarentee, but you wil develop such a better lifestyle, and looking back youll be much happier you chose this route over suicide, I know I do every day.
 

I'm in the Mood

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Ok Zippy. Before we give you any advice for you to actually start making a difference in your life I want you to promise something, not to me but to yourself.

Repeat after me:

"I want to improve myself and I want to dedicate my life to self-improvement and self-progression. I will no longer contemplate suicide if I fail, instead I will learn from my failures in order to better myself in the future. Above all I will try to make an effort to the best of my ability towards bettering myself physically, mentally, spiritually and socially as a man and as a human being. Finally, I will put my fears and weaknesses aside and concentrate on stepping outside of my comfort zone and doing things that I've never thought I could do before."

If you take this oath Zippy, and promise to live by it, every single person on the Sosuave forums will be cheering you on and helping you achieve your goals. The only condition is that you try the hardest, something above what any of us can do together to help you.

It's literally all in your hands...I'm interested in hearing what you think though, tell me next time you stop by here what your decision is.
 

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it also depends on your personality...

iv been the guy at my school that is never serious, super laid back, always out to have a good time, people know i party, im good looking, i have a sense of style, my mom always taught me to keep clean, smell good all the time, keep my nails trimmed, i got involved with music, i play drums, so im a "musician"
i have been known as a "big flirt" by girls...but thats not necessarily a bad thing.......


some of my friends recently started breaking out of their shell, i suggets you just get a better wardrobe, start hanging out with the popular kids, and work on your inner game.
 

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Start working out, meeting new people both guys and girls, reading, writing, getting into new social hobbies. I want to see you try going to a public place and sitting down next to somebody you've never seen before and starting a conversation. You'll feel GREAT afterwards.
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I've done all this, and you're right, I feel a lot better than I did before. But still, right now, I don't have a girlfriend. I've noticed that almost all of the guys who lay girls have LOTS of male friends to go to parties with, etc. How can I quickly (as possible) make close male friends out of just in-school friends who I know go to parties?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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