"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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were you just being nice?

konmai

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I've been on a couple of dates that my friends have set up, and I've been getting the "were you just being nice?" comment a couple of times now. I'm wondering is the comment legit or is it the girls way of just putting the blame on me, when they go MIA?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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TillTheEndOfTime

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You're not getting replies because you're not being clear. Elaborate a bit more. It's not making sense.
 

konmai

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After dates, either the girls I dated or their friends will ask me if I was just being nice on the date. It's kind of like how some people just politely sit through the date, although they weren't interested. So I'm wondering if this is my dates' way of putting the blame on me for going MIA after our date or if this is something I should be concerned about.

There's an article about it here: http://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-staying-out-auto-rejection

Would like to get you guys' input on it, since there are some posters here I feel are spot-on with their advice.
 

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If you were sat, being polite, letting her take the lead on the whole conversation (most guys here recommend you have 50/50 at the start, but by the end 30 - 40% of the input ). Then, yes, you'll be put in the 'nice guy' category aka the unfvckables!

You need to talk on an emotional level - not your feelings,
But -
"How do you like that"
"How did that make you feel"
- sorta stuff.
Also read up on Kino, initiate some of it.
Most importantly, be fun! Don't do wine&dine, take her bowling/ crazy golf, plenty of Kino opportunities in those!

Does this help?
 

Purefilth

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If you were sat, being polite, letting her take the lead on the whole conversation (most guys here recommend you have 50/50 at the start, but by the end 30 - 40% of the input ). Then, yes, you'll be put in the 'nice guy' category aka the unfvckables!

You need to talk on an emotional level - not your feelings,
But -
"How do you like that"
"How did that make you feel"
- sorta stuff.
Also read up on Kino, initiate some of it.
Most importantly, be fun! Don't do wine&dine, take her bowling/ crazy golf, plenty of Kino opportunities in those!

Does this help?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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