Went to a Baboy seminar yesterday. Tips

[r0cky]

Badboy is in NYC this week promoting his Cancun bootcamp. He held a 3hr seminar last night and I got to meet the legend (and for only $15 it was more than a bargain).
Anyways he's passionate about PU and did not mind sharing some extremely useful tips, heres a few of them:

The easier it is to open a girl, the harder it is to close. Girls that are easy to open are the talkative, confident, very social type. However, this confidence means they are more in control of themselves, and are more aware being 'gamed'.
Shy girls are always harder to open, but much easier to close once they bait.

The riskier your opener is, in other words, the less likely it is to bait, the better your chances are of closing, once they bait. On the other hand, the more effective your opener is (such as opinion openers), the harder it is to close.

There are 3 types of girls in night game, type A the ones that go out to fucc, B the ones that are looking for a bf, and type C the ones that dont have a reason (CB's). Type C have the annoyed look like they dont wanna be there, dont waste your time on them.

To game the A type you must use a risky opener. One that gets straight to point, because they are not there to have an interesting convo, they are there fucc. These type of girls will most likely reject you if you try an indirect opener. A good opener for them is -tap her shoulder, grab her hand and gently pull her towards you, look into her eyes and say "you're so fuccing sexy/ beautiful and I wanna **** you right now"
This opener will not work on type B's, so before you use the opener, you must learn to recognize the type A girl, its more than how they dress. Some pointers were:
2 sets, one is always a type A.
agressive make up.
Ultra high heels
dancing with a lot of guys.
Drunk girls

Also, he mentioned the 'kiss opener' which is to tongue her down as the opener. He said the success rate of this is actually high and if problems you can say "oh **** I thought you were my gf"

For type B, and day game the opener was looking into her eyes "you're so ****ing sexy/beautiful and I want to get to know you, whats is your name?" Then creating convo that establishes "trust, comfort, and connection(TCC)" then throwing some sexual comment like "you have such a nice little body" then going back to TCC convo, then sexual comment again but escalating to something more sexual like "You dont wanna know the things I wanna do to you", then back to TCC. Going back and forth on a loop that stops when shes in your bed. I should note that using risky openers on type Bs wont get you anywhere.

Other tips:
Resistance is a sign of attraction. As long as she's not totally ignoring you and really telling you to f off, some resistance must be expected, and its considered a positive sign of attraction.

Unless you're looking for a gf, theres no reason to ask for her # in night game. you either **** her or you dont. Theres no in between, her chances of flaking are so great that its not worth it. So close the deal that night or not at all.

Its not advisable to try type A openers during day game.

 

[teacha]

i just don't like the paying bit.

 

[Iceberg]

i just don't like the paying bit.

Yeah and I don't like all the attempts at adding science to it. It's like every step of your game is coordinated. All these rules about Type A's, and risky openers.

Meeting women is supposed to be fun. I can't imagine how creepy I'd be if this was the stuff I thought about when I'm out at bars and clubs.

"look into her eyes and say "you're so fuccing sexy/ beautiful and I wanna **** you right now"

Jesus Christ...I can't picture myself or any of my good-looking, girl-getting friends saying that. In fact the only person I can envision saying that is some short, fat, goateed man with an Ed Hardy shirt.

Seems like this guy created this science just for the sake of selling it.

 

[r0cky]

Yeah and I don't like all the attempts at adding science to it. It's like every step of your game is coordinated. All these rules about Type A's, and risky openers.

Meeting women is supposed to be fun. I can't imagine how creepy I'd be if this was the stuff I thought about when I'm out at bars and clubs.

"look into her eyes and say "you're so fuccing sexy/ beautiful and I wanna **** you right now"

Jesus Christ...I can't picture myself or any of my good-looking, girl-getting friends saying that. In fact the only person I can envision saying that is some short, fat, goateed man with an Ed Hardy shirt.

Seems like this guy created this science just for the sake of selling it.

He didnt really create anything, he just simplfied the art of pick up. There isnt really a lot of rules or things to think about. Its pretty much like managing people, you first must first identify the type of personality, such as task or people oriented, and lead them accordingly. Yes this comes naturally to some but not to all, this is the reason for management science, it teaches how to manage people.
Pick up is also a science, and in order to teach it it must be broken down into steps. Theres no other way around it. Badboy is internationally known not only for his mastery of PU but for his ability to make PU into a system which can be learned. I'm sure your friends dont use that routine but then again whatever strategy or routine they use you would also critizise it if they broke it down into steps.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Badboy is internationally known not only for his mastery of PU but for his ability to make PU into a system which can be learned.

This is not something that can be learned. It's part of who you are. If you can't get along with women then bat for the other team. You either have it in you and you can develop it, or you don't. Men and women have fvcked each other since existence without any PUA crap to get in the way.

Call it a science or whatever else you want but that doesn't make it so.

Science: a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways.


Notice how that doesn't leave room for BS.

I'm always amazed how people rationalize their mistakes. How much money did you spend on this?

 

[r0cky]

This is not something that can be learned. It's part of who you are. If you can't get along with women then bat for the other team. You either have it in you and you can develop it, or you don't. Men and women have fvcked each other since existence without any PUA crap to get in the way.

This is true, except for AFC's, who are the reason for this forum's existence. PU also helps you get laid more often and with hotter women.

Call it a science or whatever else you want but that doesn't make it so.

Science: a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways.


Notice how that doesn't leave room for BS.

I'm always amazed how people rationalize their mistakes. How much money did you spend on this?

Hypothesis: Girls find confidence attractive.
Experiment: Open a girl and show confidence then open a girl and show fear.
Observations: Girls were more attracted to you when you showed confidence than when you showed fear.

Pick Up is a science. Case closed.

 

[Ice882]

This is true, except for AFC's, who are the reason for this forum's existence. PU also helps you get laid more often and with hotter women.


Hypothesis: Girls find confidence attractive.
Experiment: Open a girl and show confidence then open a girl and show fear.
Observations: Girls were more attracted to you when you showed confidence than when you showed fear.

Pick Up is a science. Case closed.

An interesting delusion you have there.

Interpersonal relationships are now a science...

 

[Alle_Gory]

This is true, except for AFC's, who are the reason for this forum's existence

AFCs are fighting against their inner nature, that's their problem. PUA tactics don't help. They are a superficial solution to an internal problem.

Hypothesis: Girls find confidence attractive.
Experiment: Open a girl and show confidence then open a girl and show fear.
Observations: Girls were more attracted to you when you showed confidence than when you showed fear.

Except you get different results every time. Notice how in Science results are ALWAYS measurable? Everything is quantized and logged.

Pickup can be considered psychology at best which is the garbage bin of the human sciences.

Pick Up is a science. Case closed.

Hahahaha. If only it was that simple. You're a funny guy.

You still didn't tell me how much money you spent to learn this "science".

 

[Alle_Gory]

Can you elaborate on this part...What advice did the seminar say about this part to the pickup? Examples?

thanks

When you talk to someone, you can make them feel comfortable and they trust you more... eventually helping to build an intrapersonal connection.

$3 please.

 

[Mr Ta 187]

Badboy is in NYC this week promoting his Cancun bootcamp. He held a 3hr seminar last night and I got to meet the legend (and for only $15 it was more than a bargain).
Anyways he's passionate about PU and did not mind sharing some extremely useful tips, heres a few of them:

The easier it is to open a girl, the harder it is to close. Girls that are easy to open are the talkative, confident, very social type. However, this confidence means they are more in control of themselves, and are more aware being 'gamed'.
Shy girls are always harder to open, but much easier to close once they bait.

The riskier your opener is, in other words, the less likely it is to bait, the better your chances are of closing, once they bait. On the other hand, the more effective your opener is (such as opinion openers), the harder it is to close.

There are 3 types of girls in night game, type A the ones that go out to fucc, B the ones that are looking for a bf, and type C the ones that dont have a reason (CB's). Type C have the annoyed look like they dont wanna be there, dont waste your time on them.

To game the A type you must use a risky opener. One that gets straight to point, because they are not there to have an interesting convo, they are there fucc. These type of girls will most likely reject you if you try an indirect opener. A good opener for them is -tap her shoulder, grab her hand and gently pull her towards you, look into her eyes and say "you're so fuccing sexy/ beautiful and I wanna **** you right now"
This opener will not work on type B's, so before you use the opener, you must learn to recognize the type A girl, its more than how they dress. Some pointers were:
2 sets, one is always a type A.
agressive make up.
Ultra high heels
dancing with a lot of guys.
Drunk girls

Also, he mentioned the 'kiss opener' which is to tongue her down as the opener. He said the success rate of this is actually high and if problems you can say "oh **** I thought you were my gf"

For type B, and day game the opener was looking into her eyes "you're so ****ing sexy/beautiful and I want to get to know you, whats is your name?" Then creating convo that establishes "trust, comfort, and connection(TCC)" then throwing some sexual comment like "you have such a nice little body" then going back to TCC convo, then sexual comment again but escalating to something more sexual like "You dont wanna know the things I wanna do to you", then back to TCC. Going back and forth on a loop that stops when shes in your bed. I should note that using risky openers on type Bs wont get you anywhere.

Other tips:
Resistance is a sign of attraction. As long as she's not totally ignoring you and really telling you to f off, some resistance must be expected, and its considered a positive sign of attraction.

Unless you're looking for a gf, theres no reason to ask for her # in night game. you either **** her or you dont. Theres no in between, her chances of flaking are so great that its not worth it. So close the deal that night or not at all.

Its not advisable to try type A openers during day game.

So you say the exact same thing for "type A and B" girl? This is the dumbest advice I've ever ****ing heard of.

 

[BigJimbo]

He didnt really create anything, he just simplfied the art of pick up. There isnt really a lot of rules or things to think about. Its pretty much like managing people, you first must first identify the type of personality, such as task or people oriented, and lead them accordingly. Yes this comes naturally to some but not to all, this is the reason for management science, it teaches how to manage people.
Pick up is also a science, and in order to teach it it must be broken down into steps. Theres no other way around it. Badboy is internationally known not only for his mastery of PU but for his ability to make PU into a system which can be learned. I'm sure your friends dont use that routine but then again whatever strategy or routine they use you would also critizise it if they broke it down into steps.

Hey, I am also "internationally known". Lucky us.

Whatever happened to the days of the $2,500 PUA course? Remember those little events? A PUA gets his friends together and videotapes them sitting in front of him. Pretends that someone would really pay that money to learn the "science of pickup". Posts it on youtube. Then attempts to sell you an Internet e-book for $50. Ah, those were the days.

 

[r0cky]

Hey, I am also "internationally known". Lucky us.

Whatever happened to the days of the $2,500 PUA course? Remember those little events? A PUA gets his friends together and videotapes them sitting in front of him. Pretends that someone would really pay that money to learn the "science of pickup". Posts it on youtube. Then attempts to sell you an Internet e-book for $50. Ah, those were the days.

Geez. I only paid $15, met some wings and got to see the man in action at a lounge.
He was promoting his 7 day cancun bootcamp which costs $1200.