Went on a date with a girl from day-game, what now?

[BannedGod]

Usually I'm very busy so I meet a lot of chicks online, and it's a lot easier with them, I guess the fact that they are online makes them a bit more desperate/lower standards/eager for human affection lol, so I never really have an issue.

However recently I started having more time, so I did a bit of day-game, and I went on a date with this HB8. She was receptive throughout the date, I initiated a lot of kino (we were playing pool), including arm around shoulder, grabbing her hand, etc.

However, she never gave me any clear sign of "kiss me" or I never really had the chance to escalate (I admit it's a bit harder to do so while playing pool). She did initiate a bit of kino, but it was scarce.

Do you guys typically kiss-close on the first date when it comes from day game (not online or night-game), or the approach has to be slightly different? I was thinking of inviting her to a restaurant we talked a lot about for a second date and switch to a more seductive mode (she hinted at the possibility of a second date when I covered for pool (18$, don't flip out, I wasn't about to ask for half of that lol) and she said "next time I'm buying").

Input would be nice!

 

[peteywintz]

Sounds like a prime candidate for date #2. Get her to your house (somehow) and escalate. Not kissing on the first date isn't a bad thing; but it puts the pressure on you to escalate on the second date. If you don't escalate on the next date, however, you start to get into LJBF territory.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

She probably would have been more apt to kiss you had you not initiated so much kino.

This is from my own personal experience so it may not be true for everyone here, but I have found that the LESS kino I try to initiate, the MORE kino the girl ends up trying to do to ME. I use it as an indicator of her interest, but also to increase in her the desire for her to want my touch. If she likes me and I'm not trying to touch her, she ends up fighting a head-game battle with herself between being relieved that a guy's finally not being all grabby with her, yet at the same time wondering if that means I'm not that into her. And, to combat thought #2, the girl will usually end up initiating some kind of touch FIRST (arm touch, shoulder touch, walking close to me, brushing her hand against mine, etc.) and progressively touching me more. By the time I touch her she's DYING for it, and more apt to show signs of wanting to kiss me sometime between midway through the date to near the end of it.

Aside from that, girls won't always give you a sign they want you to kiss them. Most will, but sometimes she might be willing but doesn't want to initiate anything for fear of appearing too eager or slvtty. The best bet is to always just go for it - worst-case scenario: it's too soon and she asks you to wait, which is fine. But, more often than not, if they're feeling you during that first date, they won't mind you going for it.

At any rate, the fact that she said "next time I'm buying" means she's already thinking about a second date. So, just go on the next date, have a good time, and when you get to the end go for the "hug-and-kiss" combo, i.e. give her a hug, then look back at her face for a quick second, gaze into her eyes, and go for the kiss. Good luck!

 

[Zarky]

As I said in another post, passive girls who neither reject nor encourage are the most difficult to close sometimes.

You just have to follow the old salesman's line: "ABC - Always Be Closing." If you don't get a "no" or a lay, you didn't do it right.

I've had some of the dirtiest sex on first and second dates with ultra-passive chicks. It's simply because I kept pushing and pushing and pushing. I wouldn't even call it "pushing" because I encountered no resistance at all. It was a really weird situation each time, almost like I was alone with some mannequin who had essentially no will or desire of her own (unless her desire was to be someone's rag doll). I didn't really care for it frankly.

One girl was 19 and I banged her in the back of her car. One girl was 30 and I literally steered her back toward my place and then f*cked her mouth and came down her throat. The third was a really cute mid-20s HB8 I banged in her friend's apartment. She was so shy she pulled a sheet over her face but didn't object to anything I did to her.

Each one I got the feeling that if I hadn't put forth 100% of the effort she would have happily not had sex with me. I got no impression that they had any desire for me, but neither did I get the impression that they were upset by what was going on. It was as if they were absolutely neutral and complied with every request I had but made none of their own.