Went for the kiss, she wiped it off, ****.

[LuckyStrike88]

My friend(girl) of 1 year, we were getting close. Never more than friends though. Had been dating another girl for a few days, but to be honest i liked my friend more.

My date canceled because she was sick again, my friend asked me to come over and we watched a movie.

We were getting really close, physical play and all long eye contact. I could tell she was interested. Then i showed her something on facebook and a texted of my date popped up in the top of my screen and my friend asked who that was. I said "Yea it's this girl that has been chasing me". She pulled back and layed down with her arms crossed, i figured she didn't like it.

I kept my cool and acted like nothing was wrong, she opened up again. At some point she was showing me and scar below her chin laying back next to me and i was checking out the scar (i said i couldn't find it and she kept laying back) i was very close to her face the whole time. Then i felt like this was the time to settle the deal. And i went for it, she had been giving me opportunities the last few weeks and seemed to be feeling bad about me dating the other girl so i was convinced she wanted me to in this position...

So i kissed her, but she responded surprised and wiped off her mouth... After that surprisingly i was able to keep my cool and it wasn't that akward but i still felt disapointment somewhere...

My date had asked me what i was doing and i also told her i was hanging out with a friend(girl) and she got all jealous on me and complained about me not responding quickly like she never did before. Then she went to bed and said have fun...

I don't know if i am wrong here. I am not really a player at heart. But yea i am not in a relationship with either so can either of them blame me?

I like my friend more but she seems less interested in me but somewhat interested. I like my date also but less than my friend and she is really into me?

Am i an ******* for leading both girls on? I don't know right now kind of confused. Should i keep going for my friend i like the most but shows less interest? Or should i go for my date that is crazy about me but is jealous about a friend since we only had 2 dates?

My friend wiped off the kiss but i am still crazy about her and she didn't seem to get too wierd about it... But yeah on one side i feel she should have shown more interest in me and that she lost her chance with me. But i can also respect that it was not the right time having told her about my date. And i kind of like the challenge to win her over.

On the other side my date is a really sweet girl that is totally into me and i am kind of playing her.. I feel like an *******, should i?

What is the right move in this situation? Thanks bros

 

[LiveFreeX]

Location: Netherlands

Jesus christ, get the hell out of there.

 

[Heisenberg]

Jesus christ, get the hell out of there.

Did you revive a 2+ month old thread that nobody replied to just to pick on the guy because of where he's from?

There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures. And the Dutch.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I'm just pointing out that most of Ops problems stem from his location. I don't usually look at how old a thread is when I respond to it.

 

[TheGambino]

IMO your friend was surprised because she didn't aspect you to kiss her. She was comfortable with you in the friendzone and you made a action towards her.
I think it's a super move, very you well done.

One thing if she was highly interested she would kiss you back passionatley. Girls who got you in the friendzone are still girls and still jealous of you dating other girls. They want all your attention and affection and keep you guessing without being sexual with you. That's unfair for a male except if you want it that way and don't have sexual interest in her! But obviousley you do.

I would say:

Go on with your date, escalate quickly at the date to sex and have fun with her. Keep her guessing and let her initiate most contact.

I would go no contact with your friend since you like her and she blowed off your kiss. If a girl does sh1t you dont like you stop giving her attention, women love attention you should punish them by not giving it if she disrespects you. Do this until she reaches out to hang out. You show up act like nothing happened and don't talk to about feelings for her or anything ever. Just go with the flow have fun and kiss her again! If she blows you off again you disappear out of her life to save yourself more 'pain' of not getting her.

If she asks you about your date be vague and change the subject to her and lead away from 'the date' subject. Don't tell her yes or no but keep her guessing about other girls. In the meantime try to kiss close again like I said.

Lead them on both!

Goodluck

 

[LuckyStrike88]

IMO your friend was surprised because she didn't aspect you to kiss her. She was comfortable with you in the friendzone and you made a action towards her.
I think it's a super move, very you well done.

One thing if she was highly interested she would kiss you back passionatley. Girls who got you in the friendzone are still girls and still jealous of you dating other girls. They want all your attention and affection and keep you guessing without being sexual with you. That's unfair for a male a except if you want it that way and don't have sexual interest in her! But obviousley you do.

I would say:

Go on with your date, escalate quickly at the date to sex and have fun with her. Keep her guessing and let her initiate most contact.

I would go no contact with your friend since you like her and she blowed off your kiss. If a girl does sh1t you dont like you stop giving her attention, women love attention you should punish them by not giving it if she disrespects you. Do this until she reaches out to hang out. You show up act like nothing happened and don't talk to about feelings for her or anything ever. Just go with the flow have fun and kiss her again! If she blows you off again you disappear out of her life to save yourself more 'pain' of not getting her.

If she asks you about your date be vague and change the subject to her and lead away from 'the date' subject. Don't tell her yes or no but keep her guessing about other girls. In the meantime try to kiss close again like I said.

Lead them on both!

Goodluck

It has been some time since this post. I am still friends with her. About 2 weeks ago i was at her place and one of her girlfriends(actually my ex) was there, kind of a big talker. As you know girls talk and the girl started talking about the time i kissed my friend. What turns out that my friend was into me but was too surprised, she had her hat over her eyes when i kissed her and it kinda shocked her because of that.

I heard about this nearly 2 months after the kiss. And i had already moved on and was dating another girl. What also happened is that my friend had changed very much since hanging out with my ex and i had lost interest in her because of that.

So yeah it's no exciting ended but my friend has changed a lot since hanging out with my ex and not for the good. We are friends but i don't see her as much as i used to, and i'm perfectly okay with it.

 

[Çharismo]

Move on.

Your being led on like a bizniach brah!!!!

Even after you kissed her (your friend) there was no response from her. She likes the attention you give her and that's about it. Cut off all contact with your "friend" because she doesn't want you. If she cared enough she would have at least kissed you back or brought it up. She likes you exactly where you are...like a sick puppy looking to scratch that itch.

Pursue other girls and don't feel bad about doing anything.

You are not doing anything wrong pursuing more than 1 woman at a time.

:kick:

 

[backseatjuan]

My friend(girl) of 1 year, we were getting close. Never more than friends though. Had been dating another girl for a few days, but to be honest i liked my friend more.

My date canceled because she was sick again, my friend asked me to come over and we watched a movie.

We were getting really close, physical play and all long eye contact. I could tell she was interested. Then i showed her something on facebook and a texted of my date popped up in the top of my screen and my friend asked who that was. I said "Yea it's this girl that has been chasing me". She pulled back and layed down with her arms crossed, i figured she didn't like it.

I kept my cool and acted like nothing was wrong, she opened up again. At some point she was showing me and scar below her chin laying back next to me and i was checking out the scar (i said i couldn't find it and she kept laying back) i was very close to her face the whole time. Then i felt like this was the time to settle the deal. And i went for it, she had been giving me opportunities the last few weeks and seemed to be feeling bad about me dating the other girl so i was convinced she wanted me to in this position...

So i kissed her, but she responded surprised and wiped off her mouth... After that surprisingly i was able to keep my cool and it wasn't that akward but i still felt disapointment somewhere...

My date had asked me what i was doing and i also told her i was hanging out with a friend(girl) and she got all jealous on me and complained about me not responding quickly like she never did before. Then she went to bed and said have fun...

I don't know if i am wrong here. I am not really a player at heart. But yea i am not in a relationship with either so can either of them blame me?

I like my friend more but she seems less interested in me but somewhat interested. I like my date also but less than my friend and she is really into me?

Am i an ******* for leading both girls on? I don't know right now kind of confused. Should i keep going for my friend i like the most but shows less interest? Or should i go for my date that is crazy about me but is jealous about a friend since we only had 2 dates?

My friend wiped off the kiss but i am still crazy about her and she didn't seem to get too wierd about it... But yeah on one side i feel she should have shown more interest in me and that she lost her chance with me. But i can also respect that it was not the right time having told her about my date. And i kind of like the challenge to win her over.

On the other side my date is a really sweet girl that is totally into me and i am kind of playing her.. I feel like an *******, should i?

What is the right move in this situation? Thanks bros

The woman enters the house followed by a guy. The guy is all smiles thinking that great acts of intimacy are about to occur. But, alas, the woman launches into a rant about men.

“My ex-boyfriend was such a jerk,” she began. “Why is it that men treat me so roughly?”

The guy then transformed into Mr. Sensitive. “There, there,” he purrs. “They do not know how great you are! You are beautiful, lovely, enchanting, dazzling in every way, and they are idiots when they cannot see it.”

“You are so nice! What a friend you are!” she squeals. “Let me tell you more of my problems with men...”

And so the guy, who was excited because great acts of intimacy would occur, leaves severely disappointed with a hollow feeling echoing throughout him. “I thought that through friendship, love would eventually spring. How wrong I was! A friend she sees, a friend you be.”

When he entered the house, the guy noticed a sign above the door. At the time, he was too excited to even CONSIDER reading it. Now that he was leaving, he read it. “So true!” he cried. For the sign above the door read:

Friendship- Abandon all hope ye who enter!

“But why, Pook!? Why is friendship hopeless!? I fall in love with my female friends. Do they not do the same?”

Pook then called up a woman. She appeared in a blaze of fire (probably from the place which all women are from...).

“Oh woman, pray tell! Why do you not go after your male friends?”

The woman looked amazed that anyone could ask her that. “Because they are just friends.”

“But do they not fall in love with you?”

“Yes. My male friends constantly fall in love with me.”

“And, speak truly madam, what do you and your male friends do?”

“Oh! Well, we hang out. We talk a lot.”

“Talk? About what?”

“Everything. Anything.”

“And they fall in love with you.”

“Yes.”

“Ahh...” said the Pook. “Now we have the answer. Away with you!” And the woman vanished in a fireball.

“What answer?”

“Why, it is a difference between the sexes. Young man, what do you do with your friends?”

He looked thoughtful. “We play basketball. We ride around town. We play video games. We...”

“But do you and your guy friends ever sit around and talk about your feelings and things going on in your life?”

The young man looked angry. “HELL NO!”

“There is your answer. Men do not get together and just talk. We do things. When we are with our women friends, we talk much more. Since we reserve our talking, sharing emotions and experiences, to our romantic interest, we get confused with our female friends. We begin to get interested in them because of this.”

“But what about women, Pook?”

Pook pointed to the telephone lines above them. Lightning surged and glowed along the lines.

“The phone lines! They are on fire!”

“Indeed. When women get together, what do they do?”

The young man looked at the fiery lines. “They talk!”

“About what?”

He looked thoughtful as sparks rained on him. “Everything!”

“Women usually aren’t used to getting together and doing pure action. So when they do so with their guy friends, they get a bit confused as well.”

“I see...”

“So avoid the friendship route. When you see a woman you are interested in, go for her romantically. For a friend she sees, a friend you shall always be.”

 

[pyros]

1- You should not have a female "friend" you actually LIKE. Because if you find her hot you end up doing what you did, and therefore the friendship vanishes.
If you wanna have real female friends, they must be girls you dont find attractive.

2 Just go find other girls that wanna kiss you back. That nice girl that 'chases' you? go get her if you find her attractive.

 

[Yewki]

The woman enters the house followed by a guy. The guy is all smiles thinking that great acts of intimacy are about to occur. But, alas, the woman launches into a rant about men.

“My ex-boyfriend was such a jerk,” she began. “Why is it that men treat me so roughly?”

The guy then transformed into Mr. Sensitive. “There, there,” he purrs. “They do not know how great you are! You are beautiful, lovely, enchanting, dazzling in every way, and they are idiots when they cannot see it.”

“You are so nice! What a friend you are!” she squeals. “Let me tell you more of my problems with men...”

And so the guy, who was excited because great acts of intimacy would occur, leaves severely disappointed with a hollow feeling echoing throughout him. “I thought that through friendship, love would eventually spring. How wrong I was! A friend she sees, a friend you be.”

When he entered the house, the guy noticed a sign above the door. At the time, he was too excited to even CONSIDER reading it. Now that he was leaving, he read it. “So true!” he cried. For the sign above the door read:

Friendship- Abandon all hope ye who enter!

“But why, Pook!? Why is friendship hopeless!? I fall in love with my female friends. Do they not do the same?”

Pook then called up a woman. She appeared in a blaze of fire (probably from the place which all women are from...).

“Oh woman, pray tell! Why do you not go after your male friends?”

The woman looked amazed that anyone could ask her that. “Because they are just friends.”

“But do they not fall in love with you?”

“Yes. My male friends constantly fall in love with me.”

“And, speak truly madam, what do you and your male friends do?”

“Oh! Well, we hang out. We talk a lot.”

“Talk? About what?”

“Everything. Anything.”

“And they fall in love with you.”

“Yes.”

“Ahh...” said the Pook. “Now we have the answer. Away with you!” And the woman vanished in a fireball.

“What answer?”

“Why, it is a difference between the sexes. Young man, what do you do with your friends?”

He looked thoughtful. “We play basketball. We ride around town. We play video games. We...”

“But do you and your guy friends ever sit around and talk about your feelings and things going on in your life?”

The young man looked angry. “HELL NO!”

“There is your answer. Men do not get together and just talk. We do things. When we are with our women friends, we talk much more. Since we reserve our talking, sharing emotions and experiences, to our romantic interest, we get confused with our female friends. We begin to get interested in them because of this.”

“But what about women, Pook?”

Pook pointed to the telephone lines above them. Lightning surged and glowed along the lines.

“The phone lines! They are on fire!”

“Indeed. When women get together, what do they do?”

The young man looked at the fiery lines. “They talk!”

“About what?”

He looked thoughtful as sparks rained on him. “Everything!”

“Women usually aren’t used to getting together and doing pure action. So when they do so with their guy friends, they get a bit confused as well.”

“I see...”

“So avoid the friendship route. When you see a woman you are interested in, go for her romantically. For a friend she sees, a friend you shall always be.”

Obnoxios advice is obnoxious.

 

[LuckyStrike88]

Thanks for the advice guys. I think some of you missed one of my posts tho along there somewhere as i am no longer interested in her and we have remained friends (this was on old post that somebody bumped).

Anyway i just got back from her place, we watched a movie and some tv. It seems the tables have turned and she is now interested in me instead, not in a desperate way or anything but she keeps giggling and touching me.

We were basically gaming each other all night, quite fun i must say even though i don't even want an outcome. She tested mercilessly lol, i was pointing out a zit on her face and asked if it was a scar. Then when i told her i used to had zits as a teenager she was like yeah i can see your whole face is covered with scars, we kept on going like this all night. Good times.

The good thing is i am in control of the situation now, thanks to all your help and some other coaches. I think i nailed about every test she threw at me and it raised her interest level a lot. I've known this girl for a while and she never asks specific things about me only when her interest level is high. By the end of the night she was tapping her foot and being giggly, touching me and asking all sorts of questions. Wanted to know what i was doing tomorrow and what i would be doing later tonight after i left. As in why are you leaving already and hinting to hang out tomorrow. I declined saying i had other plans.

The thing is that it is nice to have her as a friend and have nights like this, but i do not see us working as more than friends. Were are too different for that. On the other hand it is fun to have a girl-friend like that were you can have fun, learn and see where you stand. She's nice when she feels attraction but would drop you like a fly when she has no attraction, yes it's one of those. And she is very picky, more than she should be. She kinda thinks she is hotter than she actually is, she is like a 8-8.5 but acts like she is a 9-10. I don't like that arrogance but yeah that's why we are and will be just friends.

So yeah i am just going to have fun with her as a friend in this way and take away from it what i can, and date other girls. I know she doesn't mind and also see's we have attraction but are not compatible so we can just stay friends and have fun.

Anyway the thing that works for me with her is talking a lot, good happy vibes. Being confident about who i am and not trying to act tough only if it is genuine. And of course passing the **** tests she throws out. Holding strong eye contact but never leaning towards her but leaning back, away from her. Basically being very relaxed confident and happy and don't care what she thinks.

I am happy to have a friend(girl) like this and i like it just the way it is. You can learn from it and talk to her about other girls and it helps you get better.

 

[RangerMIke]

Nothing wrong with having female friends... you just will NEVER fvck them. Accept this as fact. Men can feel romantic feelings for their female friends: women can not. Don't try to understand it just accept it.

The ONLY way to get out from under this is to completely break contact with them for a period of MONTHS and completely reset.

The best way I can explain why this happens goes back to genetic coding.. All women look for back ups, they can not help it, it's part of there nature. Needed because thousands of years ago men died like fleas. A women had to have a back-up because if her main man died in the hunt, she had to find another one REALLY fvcking quick.

Back then the ONLY thing a woman had to offer a man was sex.... If she doesn't think sex would work on you then she is powerless. So she had to separate men that wanted to fvck her from men that did not. If she THINKS you don't want to fvck her, then she makes you a friend (AKA another woman). To a woman you are either (A) A lover (B) A potential lover (C) Friend (D) Enemy.

That's it... if you are (A) then you are fvcking her. if you are (B) you are a 'backup' which could be a guy she fvck if (A) doesn't work out. If you are (C) or (D) you ain't fvcking her. She might 'love' you are a friend, like you were in her family or her girl-friend but that's it.

 

[LuckyStrike88]

Nothing wrong with having female friends... you just will NEVER fvck them. Accept this as fact. Men can feel romantic feelings for their female friends: women can not. Don't try to understand it just accept it.

The ONLY way to get out from under this is to completely break contact with them for a period of MONTHS and completely reset.

The best way I can explain why this happens goes back to genetic coding.. All women look for back ups, they can not help it, it's part of there nature. Needed because thousands of years ago men died like fleas. A women had to have a back-up because if her main man died in the hunt, she had to find another one REALLY fvcking quick.

Back then the ONLY thing a woman had to offer a man was sex.... If she doesn't think sex would work on you then she is powerless. So she had to separate men that wanted to fvck her from men that did not. If she THINKS you don't want to fvck her, then she makes you a friend (AKA another woman). To a woman you are either (A) A lover (B) A potential lover (C) Friend (D) Enemy.

That's it... if you are (A) then you are fvcking her. if you are (B) you are a 'backup' which could be a guy she fvck if (A) doesn't work out. If you are (C) or (D) you ain't fvcking her. She might 'love' you are a friend, like you were in her family or her girl-friend but that's it.

Good point bro, though feelings and situation can change. You cannot approach women like math like you are doing right now. Thought when generalizing it is pretty close.