"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Well t'was fun will it lasted....

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Over the past 3+ months I've been fooling around with this 7 at work. After months of build up(of everyone I knew telling me that she liked me) I made a move & kissed her & spanked dat azz.

This couldn't have happened at a worse time. I literally have nothing...NOTHING of value for this chick. Beyond verbal entertainment I really have nothing to offer, money LOL...we both work at a crap job so that says it all...status...HAH!....car...her bf has one I do not. Looks? I'm just barely good looking enough(3 months ago my body was crap...she wouldn't know, only recently have I started to gain muscle & lose the fat I gained from 1 solid year of doing nothing).

I've done this before so I knew that I had to get in dat azz as quickly as possible but with no cellphone, no proper home with which to invite her to & no friend's houses...I was pretty much dead in the water. I got a cell last month but the weeks rolled on with little to no progression. I knew it was a matter of time before either she lost interest or something else happened to kill it & now that time has come.

Now I'm new here in the US so forgive my ignorance but is a female 7 really powerful enough to have free stuff thrown at her & a bf with a car rapidly protective of her? Really? Must dudes of every age group fawn over her? Really? I've seen it talked about on these forums but seeing it...WOW. In the caribbean, in my country....the females are complete mirrors of US chicks in terms of attitudes but 7s know their place(well its gotten worse now apparently).

Fast forward to now. Her bf has gone into protective overdrive. He picks her up promptly after work, he calls her whenever he gets the chance, he must know her schedule, he checks her phone, he checks her phone records(or so she says -_-), he questions her over every dude she contacts or contacts her including myself. I don't know if all this is true & neither do I care, all I know is this, if a girl wants to bang a dude, no one & not even Jesus himself can stop her. My first inclination here is that she's lost interest in banging me. Sure I still get physical intimacy but that's probably her being bored at work & using that as some kind of attention. Especially since I always have to initiate(well I always had to but now she puts up more resistance).

There's also one of my managers who seems to have an eye for her. Dude is always near her or talking to her, buys her stuff as well. I actually think he may be succeeding. Usually when she's leaving she has to go in the back room to change, she will kick everyone out including me. There's a camera there so she says(hehe) that she doesn't want to change in front of me with a camera there. Fine. Its actually a good point. Now there were some tall stacks of stock blocking the camera's view & she changed back there with that same manager present. I don't know what happened & I don't want to know. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't bothered. I'm bothered because I wanted some azz & now I have to look elsewhere.

However this is not a situation I can win. I'm up against a young dude with a car & money & an older dude with a car. I don't have the looks right now to compete with that(not for at least 6-12 months). My charisma counts for nothing since there's less & less time to interact with the damn broad.

The second I kissed her that time I knew I needed more options but I don't have the power to get them. I'm trying to get myself out there but I know there'll be no lays involved.

Strangely I'm not depressed or angry though. There's a lot of other good things in my life that I'm thankful for. Girls may not give a flying sh!te about me but there's a lot of good friends that do. I'll think of that while this manager dude manages to boink this chick.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Your best bet. Don't chase. And figure out a way those obitors can be buying her shyte, while your pounding that ass without so much as giving her some McDonalds fries! Chick's eat up the free shyte. Doesn't mean they respect it.

Unless, "I ain't sayin' she a gold digger." So she might not marry you, but who cares. You're looking for azz.
 

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I'm not gonna chase, I've never really had to unless you call initiating sexual stuff chasing. What I can't do is figure out a way to pound her ass especially if she can't or isn't being co-operative. Of course I can't tell her this because her gina will snap shut faster than a trap door in MK.

I've reached a roadblock, the only answer is more options unfortunately, the near future ain't looking too bright.
 

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Give her less attention, and she'll eventually come to you for it if she's still interested in you.

And when she comes back to you for attention, make her work for it.

The power is all yours.
 

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Affirmative.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If females are able to roll males for everything they've got, it's because the males let them.

I use the terms females and males because in each group there are different sub groups. Real men don't let themselves get rolled (if they do, they quickly self-correct) - boys do. Real women don't grift - gold diggers do.

Not a lot of real women and real men in this world. Not everyone has what it takes (mentally).

It's sad, but true.
 

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First. Take her off the pedestal. Second. Forget about her. Move on and talk to some other women. She's not the only broad on earth. Third. Consult your dj bible.

Kill that desperation!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16926

Treat All Women The Same (during the first two months)
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16623

She Can't Have Her Cake And Eat It Too
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15872

The manipulative, cold hearted man with tits
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16739

If you think she's playing games/mixed signals
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16905

Why Self-Respect Is Crucial To Your Becoming a Don Juan
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16900

Read them all.
 

Kirro

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Warrior74 said:
First. Take her off the pedestal. Second. Forget about her. Move on and talk to some other women. She's not the only broad on earth. Third. Consult your dj bible.

Kill that desperation!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16926

Treat All Women The Same (during the first two months)
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16623

She Can't Have Her Cake And Eat It Too
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15872

The manipulative, cold hearted man with tits
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16739

If you think she's playing games/mixed signals
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16905

Why Self-Respect Is Crucial To Your Becoming a Don Juan
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16900

Read them all.
Lol. I already know what they say. I'll go a step further & actually apply them.
 

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I see. so the point of your post, like most post, was to have whine and a moan. We all know the right thing to do, its just that doing the right thing is usually hard at first.
 

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I agree with Warrior. And its even more so to put an attached girl on a pedestal. Plus anything negative they say about their bf you can take with a grain of salt.

And always remember, karma is a women....*****y and spiteful. So if a dude games your woman some day, dont come cry here to us about it xD

*in Bill Clinton voice* Now go out there and be somebody. lol
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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@Warrior - Hey at least I'm going to take your advice & put it into practice. & its not that hard, forgetting about her as a prospect is far more beneficial for me.

@Jaylan - Some problems with your response.. She's not on a pedestal, if anything my OP states that I think its absurd she can get away with the things she does. Secondly who's she still listening to at this very moment? The bf. This is what compels me to do as Warrior says.

Some dude gaming my woman? Can't happen if I don't have any particular woman. I don't care about LTRs, the one or that 'special' girl, I'll leave that for the other guys.

Go out there & be somebody? No problem, I'll do you one better, I'll be somebody productive.
 

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Wait a minute....so you aren't man enough to find your own girl. So you pine over someone who is taken???

Am I the only one that finds some problem in this?

get yourself together my brother....
 

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Kirro said:
@Warrior - Hey at least I'm going to take your advice & put it into practice. & its not that hard, forgetting about her as a prospect is far more beneficial for me.

@Jaylan - Some problems with your response.. She's not on a pedestal, if anything my OP states that I think its absurd she can get away with the things she does. Secondly who's she still listening to at this very moment? The bf. This is what compels me to do as Warrior says.

Some dude gaming my woman? Can't happen if I don't have any particular woman. I don't care about LTRs, the one or that 'special' girl, I'll leave that for the other guys.

Go out there & be somebody? No problem, I'll do you one better, I'll be somebody productive.
You dont care about LTRs but you get some bent out of shape about a taken girl at work who the boss might be sleeping with too. Meh, shes a skank and wasnt worth the thread imo.

You say you dont care about special girls but based on your response to this chick, I def see that its possible for you to fall for someone, some I stand by my first response.

The "go out there and be somebody" was me referencing a Dave Chappelle joke that featured a Bill Clinton impression.

And by all means go out and be productive. You can start by not being a downer about what you dont have and being positive about what you do have. Go make some big life moves....get that car, a better job maybe, and a place to bring girls home to.

Btw, how old are you?
 

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Kirro said:
Now I'm new here in the US so forgive my ignorance but is a female 7 really powerful enough to have free stuff thrown at her & a bf with a car rapidly protective of her? Really? Must dudes of every age group fawn over her? Really?
Yes, 7s are mostly all mini-celebrities here in the states. It doesn't take much for a woman to be extremely desired and chased by men here. I've seen women who have visible guts get approached non-stop at bars and on the street.

Go back to your paradise, there's nothing but overpriced and overvalued pvssy here.
 

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Jaylan said:
You dont care about LTRs but you get some bent out of shape about a taken girl at work who the boss might be sleeping with too. Meh, shes a skank and wasnt worth the thread imo.

I know SS is used to dealing with a certain type of guy & I get that but try to grasp the concept that not every youngster is some lovesick pup. I'm bent out of shape because I'm not pounding that ass. I'm a bratty boy throwing a tantrum because he can't play with a toy.

You say you dont care about special girls but based on your response to this chick, I def see that its possible for you to fall for someone, some I stand by my first response.

Lol. My actions concerning this chick prove the contrary mate.

The "go out there and be somebody" was me referencing a Dave Chappelle joke that featured a Bill Clinton impression.

Oh. Didn't know that.

And by all means go out and be productive. You can start by not being a downer about what you dont have and being positive about what you do have. Go make some big life moves....get that car, a better job maybe, and a place to bring girls home to.

I'll be alright. I always pull through.

Btw, how old are you?
I'm 21.

@TIC - Well that blows. I would have thought 8s & up would have gotten that treatment. A 7 is a 7. Better than average but nothing amazing, oh well, North America is still pretty interesting.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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