well Im new....my hello and sob story.

[fuzzball]

well i am new here. well truth be told I have kind of half lurked here on and off for a while now. figured I'd post my story.

Well i won't lie i am closing in on 29 and have minimal dating experience. in fact my longest relationship was over 10 years ago and it was online for 8 months or so. sad and pathetic i know. however i would like to actually get into the dating world again and i realize i know absolutely nothing about this dating world.

that being said i think i havent dated for years for a few reasons.

1. as a teenager really by age 14 or 13 i came to the conclusion that women are overall stupid. and teenage women are stupider still. as i grew older i thought my initial conclusions were that of a sexist dirtbag but now that i am a bit older i realize that no i was write all along. my teenage self had at least this much figured out.

2.i am naturally introverted to an extreme level. despite this i can strangely BS presentations on the fly with great results and get A's in class. but bonding with people takes me quite a while. that said mix that with the usual "if i like a girl" nervous silence and things tend to badly although i wish my ability to BS an A presentation could come out instead.

3. every relationship i have seen with friends and family seems to carry with it an insane level of pointless mindless BS drama. i have lost friends solely because they got into a relationship with someone. i have known countless people that(really i cant think of anyone i know that didnt fit this mold) get into relationships and completely change. they also seem to put up with a lot of unhappiness and senseless lying. theyll whine about how unhappy this person makes them but still stick it out. i cant fathom why i would ever do that to myself if a person makes me miserable i see no reason to keep going to that person.

i see it in nearly every case of people i have ever met. they get into a relationship and the person morphs(usually the guy). ill just use a more current example. i have a friend that whines about his girl daily and if i let him he will go on for hours. sometimes while we are playing xbox so i am at least half distracted while doing it. or sometimes while on the toilet....because well i dont know how people do it but everyone i ever know or give my phone number too can without fail call me the second i go to the bathroom. without fail. so he whines about her daily for hours on end it seems like. he cant play the xbox while she is home(i moved out of state for college so this is how we "hang out") yet she will be on the phone with random guys for hours on end telling them what she is wearing and he does nothing about it. he is accused of cheating for being out of breathe because i don't know??? the other night after a long drive out of state and back all day for something she wanted to work out at midnight so they did. what she commands he does. and most relationships i see people in end up exactly like that.

while i have no issue with compromising in a relationship i rarely see that happen. as stated in some cases i have lost friends because they got into a relationship. in another case this one guy i know literally morphs into a completely different person. his level of lies are amazing. this an example of a common one. shell call and he'll say i am eating dominos and watching the lion king. in reality hell be eating little casears and watching harry potter. theyve been engaged 7 times and currently are engaged. i cant say im shocked hes justifed cheating on her. though shes lied a lot too so it evens out i guess?

and you know i see this kind of dramatic BS in relationships repeatedly and i think i do not want that but yet i want to actually be in a relationship. i admit my ideas might be old fashioned but i would like such a relationship where i am happy to see the person more than i am not happy and i have no qualms with providing a house if shell look after the kids. sure its an old fashioned kind of view(my folks had me rather late they could be my grandparents so i have that old 50s parenting style passed onto me)

4. i really havent looked for any kind of female relationship not even one night dates in years. i am completely out of the loop here.


all that said the other problem is the current dating world....wtf is going on? i have no idea. it seems like a clusterbomb of madness. trolling dating websites i see woman all want a guy to go travel the damn world with and be crazy and wild. in real life i see women being fickle as hell and men just wondering around hoping to get lucky and often putting up with the most BS arguments in the world. i swear a man in relationship could hear the girl say 2 + 2 does not equal 4 and he wouldnt call her on that. i admit if there is a girl i like i am likely guilty of that. ironically in that one 8 month relationship i had thinking on it now at 18 or 19 or 17 or whatever maybe i had more balls then cause i am certain i called her out on that BS repeatedly. strange this just occurred to me...

i also admit my method need slight altering. i am religious and i am trying to avoid sex till marriage. although closing in at 29 being a virgin is horrible and taxing on the body and mind and the most sex i've had is porn(ok im not perfect a man has urges). well i lied i made out once on prom night. ya ive been in a sexual closet doing nothing for years. though i know porn isnt healthy i did quit it for a while but it came back. that aside due to the i dont want to bang her on the first night rule i do admit my methods will need to be somewhat altered but the general principles ive read on many of the posts here should apply i'd imagine?

so basically due to various reasons i have done nothing in the world of interacting with the opposite sex in any kind of sexual or romantic way. and i am lost. i am biting my pride and posting here. that said i accept it i probably haven't been a real man in this area of life. though i am sure some of the reason for that is religions tend to condemn sex(while there is a valid scriptural argument against premarital sex this tends to condemn everything from date one to the honeymoon and the magically oh its all great....i think this polluted my brain in a bad way over the years....note i am not condemning people that don't believe this just stating where i am coming from here)

sorry its a long intro. but whoever reads i thank for your time and appreciate the replies. but i iz lost and iz confuzed.

 

[1-800-HellNo]

you must be from 4chan...

there isn't anything wrong with being an introvert.
usually they are more collected, but it also means they sit alone and "think" a lot, which is not how you get girls, or really accomplish anything.

did you read "Book of Pook"

everyone is gonna suggest it.
if you haven't read it, you need to do it immediately. i guarantee it will give you a new perspective.
it's a free pdf that doesn't even take long to read, so there are no excuses.

edit: and a really important thing. don't let your friends failures hold you back. one thing your friends have that you don't is experience.

and it's good you recognize that a lot of guys give into their girls. i would say that's the biggest mistake guys make. there are a lot of reasons guys do this, but to put it nice and simple: they put the pvssy on a pedestal.
I think the basis of this site is to help men realize that mind frame is the ultimate way to fail with women.

"and the most sex i've had is porn" ok that sh1ts funny. successful troll, kinda hard to tell.
why are you religious anyway?
29 and still a christian? damn that's sad as hell man.

i think the only christians who manage to pull off the "virgin till marriage" are the ones who get married at 18, 19. i know a few people like that.
all the older ones i've met are so angry and pissed at life, because they would actually do anything to get laid but can't. all they have is there reputation as "this is a good christian, he is withholding until marriage" but nobody actually respects that man...

 

[HalfPUAHalfAFC]

On saving sex for marriage....

1) It's unhealthy. No-sex-before-marriage was a principle borne in a era where marriage was more a property-economic-political contract between families (arranged marriages were the most common, historically speaking) where this norm would more likely assure that progeny from the woman would in fact be sired by the husband, therefore his heirs (family land, money, cattle, status, etc.) would rightfully receive their due, not the child of some momentary tryst. This also explains why earlier societies tending to tightly control women's sexuality as well as marry them off young.

Today, saving sex for marriage is unhealthy because it contradicts our biological being. It wasn't so much a problem when people got married at 14 or so and started having kids. Jump forward several centuries and now putting off sex until 21, 29, and so on wrecks havoc on the psyche. We are NOT meant to be celibate.

Your "religious" background is only messing with you here. Those "morals" were not handed down by god but invented by desert dwelling goat herders who needed to keep family lines intact and make socio-political connections with other families.

2) Marriage. You say you've been lurking these boards for a while. Do some research on what marriage has turned into. It is basically handing over 1/2 your stuff and future earnings (whether divorce comes or not) to a woman who has more options than women have had in the history of the world. If you are saving yourself until marriage, then you still have a Disneyesque view of women and love. You will find "the one", you think, eventually and "treat her right" and all will be well, if you just hunt hard enough.

Read up on women your age riding the carousel of alpha c0ck and then finding a supplicating beta in their 30s, only to cheat on him, divorce, and take half his stuff...plus child support if a baby was made. This is what you are setting yourself up for.

I would also recommend that you go to "The Rational Male" site and read every post there (start from the earliest). Reading SoSauve and its posters is a good start, but you need to dig deeper and The Rational Male is a great place to start.

You need to get laid. You need to date several women and see what that's like. You need to experience what happens when you treat a woman well and she dumps you anyway. You need to experience the pleasure of raucous sex, even if its carefree and careless (just wrap it up; sire no ho's child). You need to hit on lots of women and see what it is like to fail repeated because of women's ridiculous standards, b!tch shields, and craving for alpha-tude. You need to have a woman fall in love with you, even if you are not in love with her; you need to see what it is like from the other side, where a woman believes you are the best guy she's ever met but you can go with or without her. You need to seduce a woman into a one-night stand and feel like a sex god the next morning. You need to feel the pain and frustration of gaming a woman you "really like" and see how/if it changes your behavior and leaves you wondering where you failed.

You need to experience all of this. It's part of becoming a man in our society today and if you want a woman you have to give her the opportunity to meet a man, and that only comes with grabbing yourself by your sack and getting experience.

Hit the gym.
Fix your clothes and appearance.
Fix your diet.
Go talk to women.
Get numbers, dates.
Fail. Figure out where it went off the tracks. Fix it.
Learn to succeed.
Learn when to walk away.

While doing all that, NEVER, and I mean NEVER, tell a woman you meet / are gaming that you are a virgin. That will not come off well. If she sees it as endearing, she still won't want to bang you.

Good luck!

 

[fuzzball]

"and the most sex i've had is porn" ok that sh1ts funny. successful troll, kinda hard to tell.

im glad i amused you. it is funny but it is depressing all at once. i can at least some of the time laugh at myself which helps negate the damage.

why are you religious anyway?

onto this question you both asked. i am religious due to certain experiences that 100% confirm the existence God. to deny these experiences would be to commit the biggest lie i could ever commit. that is the lump sum of it. so i am trying to adhere to certain rules along those lines. that said i have certainly broken a lot of rules and screwed up a great deal. i am not saying i am perfect or holier than thou or condemning the lifestyle presented on this site. i see it has its uses. hell i am posting here arent i. although i agree with the other guy being this old and sexless is somewhat wrecking havor on my psyche although i am sure its not the only thing but it does seem to be a primary thing at the moment.

did you read "Book of Pook"

just looked it up. read the first 15 lessons and quite frankly sounds like me in a lot areas. depressing lol. will get through it all sooner than later i hope.

and a really important thing. don't let your friends failures hold you back. one thing your friends have that you don't is experience.

what i was saying is if i get into a relationship i dont want that level of madness. i also supposed i used that as an excuse to avoid dating all together. while not healthy im not sure its any less healthy than being in said relationships. for me personally i'd rather be celibate for life than be in those positions. and as you say...

and it's good you recognize that a lot of guys give into their girls. i would say that's the biggest mistake guys make. there are a lot of reasons guys do this, but to put it nice and simple: they put the pvssy on a pedestal.
I think the basis of this site is to help men realize that mind frame is the ultimate way to fail with women.

this actually is one of my biggest beefs with people in relationships. the pvssy worshipping or c0ck worshiping.

1) It's unhealthy. No-sex-before-marriage was a principle borne in a era where marriage was more a property-economic-political contract between families (arranged marriages were the most common, historically speaking) where this norm would more likely assure that progeny from the woman would in fact be sired by the husband, therefore his heirs (family land, money, cattle, status, etc.) would rightfully receive their due, not the child of some momentary tryst. This also explains why earlier societies tending to tightly control women's sexuality as well as marry them off young

i agree this philosphy worked much better in those days. our church has get togethers for single folks like me and the older we get the more chaotic these events get. honestly the younger they are the better these events work because i think we were meant to start popping out kids by 14 or 15. but now days if i said i liked a 14 year old that would get me called a pedophile even though there is another term for it that eludes me at the moment. i think that is also damaging to men and society as well. its hard as hell to tell the difference physically and mentally between a 14 year old and a 20 year old or anybody in that age range. yet depending on the age you sir are a pedophile.

2) Marriage. You say you've been lurking these boards for a while. Do some research on what marriage has turned into. It is basically handing over 1/2 your stuff and future earnings (whether divorce comes or not) to a woman who has more options than women have had in the history of the world. If you are saving yourself until marriage, then you still have a Disneyesque view of women and love. You will find "the one", you think, eventually and "treat her right" and all will be well, if you just hunt hard enough.

Read up on women your age riding the carousel of alpha c0ck and then finding a supplicating beta in their 30s, only to cheat on him, divorce, and take half his stuff...plus child support if a baby was made. This is what you are setting yourself up for.

I would also recommend that you go to "The Rational Male" site and read every post there (start from the earliest). Reading SoSauve and its posters is a good start, but you need to dig deeper and The Rational Male is a great place to start.

ive looked into this before. this honestly part of my inner conflict. i tend to long for days that have gone past where this wasnt an issue it doesnt help i am a history nerd and love reading old stuff. i am aware of this and it disturbs me greatly. that said i cant help it that i do actually want the unthinkable at some point...a stable long term relationship with kids and wife its just society is basically tossing that idea down the crapper on a daily basis. i agree closing in on 29 changes things in this department and certainly doesnt make life easier but it is what it is i cant undo that. thanks though i will check out the rational male site.

You need to get laid. You need to date several women and see what that's like. You need to experience what happens when you treat a woman well and she dumps you anyway. You need to experience the pleasure of raucous sex, even if its carefree and careless (just wrap it up; sire no ho's child). You need to hit on lots of women and see what it is like to fail repeated because of women's ridiculous standards, b!tch shields, and craving for alpha-tude. You need to have a woman fall in love with you, even if you are not in love with her; you need to see what it is like from the other side, where a woman believes you are the best guy she's ever met but you can go with or without her. You need to seduce a woman into a one-night stand and feel like a sex god the next morning. You need to feel the pain and frustration of gaming a woman you "really like" and see how/if it changes your behavior and leaves you wondering where you failed.

i agree. well i am posting here in hopes of working myself to get to that point. its weird because i can display an alpha male like personality sometimes. dont get me wrong i have women show interest me just some point between that and going further than interest i turn into the "i dont know wtf to do now awkward silence a large portion of the time". so i am sure i can do that if i can just get past that mental block. i have had chances to get laid by both guys and girls so i know i can accomplish this again lol.

While doing all that, NEVER, and I mean NEVER, tell a woman you meet / are gaming that you are a virgin. That will not come off well. If she sees it as endearing, she still won't want to bang you.

well in some settings(like church) that will get you condemned just as easily lol at least publicly announcing that you arent a virgin.

You need to experience all of this. It's part of becoming a man in our society today and if you want a woman you have to give her the opportunity to meet a man, and that only comes with grabbing yourself by your sack and getting experience.

i agree. looking back on life this part of manhood sort of passed me by. i am not entirely sure why. even as a teenager my sex drive was a lot lower than your average person. it wasnt until my 20s that my sex drive really hit me and even then not until the past 2-3 years. i have no idea why that is and the porn viewing seemed to most of the time be just scratching an itch or oh my body is making semen it needs to be released and not so much a i am hugely horny until the past 2-3 years where it seems i now have a sex drive that was dead previously. its weird to explain. i am guessing my testerone levels arent as high i've heard that can happen to guys that cant grow full facial hair which if i let mine grow out still looks like that crappy unfinished facial hair you get when you first start getting it at 14 or 15.

Hit the gym.
Fix your clothes and appearance.
Fix your diet.
Go talk to women.
Get numbers, dates.
Fail. Figure out where it went off the tracks. Fix it.
Learn to succeed.
Learn when to walk away.

honestly this is stuff i have been telling myself i need to do for a while now. i am just not sure why i havent done it. i have made a few attempts at it but keep reverting to my new old habits of misery.

well i do thank you guys for the replies and reading my ranting and raving lol.

 

[JoeMarron]

onto this question you both asked. i am religious due to certain experiences that 100% confirm the existence God. to deny these experiences would be to commit the biggest lie i could ever commit. that is the lump sum of it. so i am trying to adhere to certain rules along those lines. that said i have certainly broken a lot of rules and screwed up a great deal. i am not saying i am perfect or holier than thou or condemning the lifestyle presented on this site. i see it has its uses. hell i am posting here arent i. although i agree with the other guy being this old and sexless is somewhat wrecking havor on my psyche although i am sure its not the only thing but it does seem to be a primary thing at the moment.

Just because God exists doesn't mean man made religion is the truth.

i have had chances to get laid by both guys and girls so i know i can accomplish this again lol.

Lolwat?

HalfPUAHalfAFC basically gave you the blueprint to success. You have access to the correct knowledge. Now you just have to be a man and go out and implement it. Or you can do nothing and continue to wallow in your situation. Here are some more links for you. Read them, do what makes sense to you and toss out the stuff that doesn't. If you put some effort into it eventually you'll get the results you're looking for.

http://therationalmale.com/
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/
http://www.mts.net/~bpony/djbible/

 

[Sneevox]

Hmm... Interesting post.
Read the Book of Pook and the DJ Bible.

Also, I have no problem with religion, but the Christian religion (in my experience) has a problem with throwing women on the pedestal.
I remember an entire sermon explaining why the woman was "God's most perfect creation" and I was half buying it and half confused as to why any creation of his would be more or less perfect than the other if he loves us all equally.... Then I stopped believing in God.

So yeah.

 

[fuzzball]

Hmm... Interesting post.
Read the Book of Pook and the DJ Bible.

Also, I have no problem with religion, but the Christian religion (in my experience) has a problem with throwing women on the pedestal.
I remember an entire sermon explaining why the woman was "God's most perfect creation" and I was half buying it and half confused as to why any creation of his would be more or less perfect than the other if he loves us all equally.... Then I stopped believing in God.

So yeah.

as i have gotten older this christian pedestal throwing has grated on my nerves so i know what you mean. to add to that they tend to emasculate the males which is i think part of the problem i suffered growing up though society seems to do that in general.

Just because God exists doesn't mean man made religion is the truth.



Lolwat?

HalfPUAHalfAFC basically gave you the blueprint to success. You have access to the correct knowledge. Now you just have to be a man and go out and implement it. Or you can do nothing and continue to wallow in your situation. Here are some more links for you. Read them, do what makes sense to you and toss out the stuff that doesn't. If you put some effort into it eventually you'll get the results you're looking for.

http://therationalmale.com/
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/
http://www.mts.net/~bpony/djbible/

yes i intend to invest in some serious soul searching and mind altering. thanks for links will look them up. dont worry i am tired of wallowing in my situation i really do mean to change. sometimes it just takes months to psyche myself into which is what ive been doing for the past year now lol. its just comforting to find a place where i am not the only one completely clueless in this area. it helps a lot.

and i never said religions didnt have faults but unfortunately what we do have is the best we have on the subject. it seems without fault we tamper and alter truth repeatedly. or rather we see only what we want to see.

 

[VikingKing]

well i am new here. well truth be told I have kind of half lurked here on and off for a while now. figured I'd post my story.

Well i won't lie i am closing in on 29 and have minimal dating experience. in fact my longest relationship was over 10 years ago and it was online for 8 months or so. sad and pathetic i know. however i would like to actually get into the dating world again and i realize i know absolutely nothing about this dating world.

that being said i think i havent dated for years for a few reasons.

1. as a teenager really by age 14 or 13 i came to the conclusion that women are overall stupid. and teenage women are stupider still. as i grew older i thought my initial conclusions were that of a sexist dirtbag but now that i am a bit older i realize that no i was write all along. my teenage self had at least this much figured out.

2.i am naturally introverted to an extreme level. despite this i can strangely BS presentations on the fly with great results and get A's in class. but bonding with people takes me quite a while. that said mix that with the usual "if i like a girl" nervous silence and things tend to badly although i wish my ability to BS an A presentation could come out instead.

3. every relationship i have seen with friends and family seems to carry with it an insane level of pointless mindless BS drama. i have lost friends solely because they got into a relationship with someone. i have known countless people that(really i cant think of anyone i know that didnt fit this mold) get into relationships and completely change. they also seem to put up with a lot of unhappiness and senseless lying. theyll whine about how unhappy this person makes them but still stick it out. i cant fathom why i would ever do that to myself if a person makes me miserable i see no reason to keep going to that person.

i see it in nearly every case of people i have ever met. they get into a relationship and the person morphs(usually the guy). ill just use a more current example. i have a friend that whines about his girl daily and if i let him he will go on for hours. sometimes while we are playing xbox so i am at least half distracted while doing it. or sometimes while on the toilet....because well i dont know how people do it but everyone i ever know or give my phone number too can without fail call me the second i go to the bathroom. without fail. so he whines about her daily for hours on end it seems like. he cant play the xbox while she is home(i moved out of state for college so this is how we "hang out") yet she will be on the phone with random guys for hours on end telling them what she is wearing and he does nothing about it. he is accused of cheating for being out of breathe because i don't know??? the other night after a long drive out of state and back all day for something she wanted to work out at midnight so they did. what she commands he does. and most relationships i see people in end up exactly like that.

while i have no issue with compromising in a relationship i rarely see that happen. as stated in some cases i have lost friends because they got into a relationship. in another case this one guy i know literally morphs into a completely different person. his level of lies are amazing. this an example of a common one. shell call and he'll say i am eating dominos and watching the lion king. in reality hell be eating little casears and watching harry potter. theyve been engaged 7 times and currently are engaged. i cant say im shocked hes justifed cheating on her. though shes lied a lot too so it evens out i guess?

and you know i see this kind of dramatic BS in relationships repeatedly and i think i do not want that but yet i want to actually be in a relationship. i admit my ideas might be old fashioned but i would like such a relationship where i am happy to see the person more than i am not happy and i have no qualms with providing a house if shell look after the kids. sure its an old fashioned kind of view(my folks had me rather late they could be my grandparents so i have that old 50s parenting style passed onto me)

4. i really havent looked for any kind of female relationship not even one night dates in years. i am completely out of the loop here.


all that said the other problem is the current dating world....wtf is going on? i have no idea. it seems like a clusterbomb of madness. trolling dating websites i see woman all want a guy to go travel the damn world with and be crazy and wild. in real life i see women being fickle as hell and men just wondering around hoping to get lucky and often putting up with the most BS arguments in the world. i swear a man in relationship could hear the girl say 2 + 2 does not equal 4 and he wouldnt call her on that. i admit if there is a girl i like i am likely guilty of that. ironically in that one 8 month relationship i had thinking on it now at 18 or 19 or 17 or whatever maybe i had more balls then cause i am certain i called her out on that BS repeatedly. strange this just occurred to me...

i also admit my method need slight altering. i am religious and i am trying to avoid sex till marriage. although closing in at 29 being a virgin is horrible and taxing on the body and mind and the most sex i've had is porn(ok im not perfect a man has urges). well i lied i made out once on prom night. ya ive been in a sexual closet doing nothing for years. though i know porn isnt healthy i did quit it for a while but it came back. that aside due to the i dont want to bang her on the first night rule i do admit my methods will need to be somewhat altered but the general principles ive read on many of the posts here should apply i'd imagine?

so basically due to various reasons i have done nothing in the world of interacting with the opposite sex in any kind of sexual or romantic way. and i am lost. i am biting my pride and posting here. that said i accept it i probably haven't been a real man in this area of life. though i am sure some of the reason for that is religions tend to condemn sex(while there is a valid scriptural argument against premarital sex this tends to condemn everything from date one to the honeymoon and the magically oh its all great....i think this polluted my brain in a bad way over the years....note i am not condemning people that don't believe this just stating where i am coming from here)

sorry its a long intro. but whoever reads i thank for your time and appreciate the replies. but i iz lost and iz confuzed.

Good on you for coming here.

 

[sharkbeat]

2.i am naturally introverted to an extreme level. despite this i can strangely BS presentations on the fly with great results and get A's in class. but bonding with people takes me quite a while. that said mix that with the usual "if i like a girl" nervous silence and things tend to badly although i wish my ability to BS an A presentation could come out instead.

Did you know that the only difference between an introvert and an extrovert is that an introvert gains energy when he's by himself, while an extrovert gains energy when he's surrounded by people?

For an introvert, he has to spend energy to talk to other people. For an extrovert, talking to other people actually empowers him (and being alone actually depresses him). That's why an extrovert can be talking non-stop because that empowers him.

When dealing with women, or just social skill in general, there's the right amount of talking that you need to do. Too much talking is bad for the extrovert. Not talking at all is bad for the introvert. You can actually train yourself to be a decent conversationalist, regardless whether you are an introvert or an extrovert. For an introvert, he needs to learn how to converse. For an extrovert, he needs to learn how to stop and listen. Both sides equally need practice to be good at conversing.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Goto SOUTH KOREA

Easy hookups, Asian women are all introverts and they are all Catholics.

 

[Dan08]

You need to get laid. You need to date several women and see what that's like. You need to experience what happens when you treat a woman well and she dumps you anyway. You need to experience the pleasure of raucous sex, even if its carefree and careless (just wrap it up; sire no ho's child). You need to hit on lots of women and see what it is like to fail repeated because of women's ridiculous standards, b!tch shields, and craving for alpha-tude. You need to have a woman fall in love with you, even if you are not in love with her; you need to see what it is like from the other side, where a woman believes you are the best guy she's ever met but you can go with or without her. You need to seduce a woman into a one-night stand and feel like a sex god the next morning. You need to feel the pain and frustration of gaming a woman you "really like" and see how/if it changes your behavior and leaves you wondering where you failed.

This was pure gold, it hit me on so many levels.

 

[fuzzball]

Goto SOUTH KOREA

Easy hookups, Asian women are all introverts and they are all Catholics.

this guy gets it lol

Did you know that the only difference between an introvert and an extrovert is that an introvert gains energy when he's by himself, while an extrovert gains energy when he's surrounded by people?

For an introvert, he has to spend energy to talk to other people. For an extrovert, talking to other people actually empowers him (and being alone actually depresses him). That's why an extrovert can be talking non-stop because that empowers him.

When dealing with women, or just social skill in general, there's the right amount of talking that you need to do. Too much talking is bad for the extrovert. Not talking at all is bad for the introvert. You can actually train yourself to be a decent conversationalist, regardless whether you are an introvert or an extrovert. For an introvert, he needs to learn how to converse. For an extrovert, he needs to learn how to stop and listen. Both sides equally need practice to be good at conversing.

yep i know that about that energy level(getting my degree in psychology). i also know it because i've noticed that about myself and while doing good old fashioned people watching...or is that called stalking not sure which anymore. yea i really do need to work on my conversation skills i just cant always think of something to say. i still need to work on the hot girl frozen brain syndrome. also in large crowds of people that doesnt work for me either all my energy is focused on just being there cause it drains me.

i must say where has this book of pook been all my life? also why did my dad never tell me anything remotely similar....damn church completely dropped the ball in this area. pook is actually half way depressing me because i used to have these traits he speaks so highly of in great abundance but i never applied them to the dating world because of the aforementioned BS i saw dating cause. i also used to have these traits in great abundance as a child too...i know this because my mom used to wonder why i had them and got mad about it despite this i always hear the men are the leaders of the house hmm....hear that in church too but i see now they speak one thing and do the total opposite. kind of kicking myself i let these traits die and turn me into a shriveled bitter person.

guess i should have looked up to my old man a bit more. he certainly is a real Man. ruler of the house. i cant help but think of one example. my mom for the 100th time threatened to leave and finally in front of us all he yelled and told her TO JUST LEAVE. IF YOU ARE SO SICK OF IT HERE JUST LEAVE THERE'S THE DOOR. that ended that conversation for the final time. without fear or consequence. he had other similar commanding outbursts as needed. i seem to be recalling them now.

the dating yourself idea is just amazing(thanks too google i will do that or like the old me just drive around and find someplace to go)....thinking on it now the old teenage me would do that. if i was bored i'd go somewhere by myself with confidence now i look and feel terrible like some loner crack addict. wtf happened?