well I like a challenge, but I think this may be too much....

[TheMasterOfBation]

heres the story:
well i always used to see this chick in the student life building in my school, this semester i decided to get to know her. ok so were cool and everything, i invited her on a couple of group outings and so on. shes a flirt. problem is she flirts with everyone the same exact way(tickling, hitting blah blah). i c no signs from her at all since theya re given to everyone the same way. in fact she never returns my calls or text messages, sometimes never even answers the phone. still everytime i c her she acts all cool around me, i act like the not returning calls and stuff doesn't bother me (i dont even bring it up in fact). i hardly get alone time with this chick cuz she always with this AFC dude. this guys pays for everything, does everything, and will pretty much die for her. they are just friends but its obvious he likes her, he even told my boy that he does. but 24/7 this guy is with her and i have no access to her. on those group outings i had no choice but to invite him too....damn this AFC ****blocker..so what should i do cuz im not about to let an AFC win...plus even though shes not showing interest i still dont wanna give up.. any techniques or tips u guys can suggest to help grab her interest and eliminate that other dude from the picture?

o yea next mon is her b-day so i decided to get her something thoughtful but cheap ( i spent 14 bucks)...good or bad idea?

 

[ScrewIt]

heres the story:
well i always used to see this chick in the student life building in my school, this semester i decided to get to know her. ok so were cool and everything, i invited her on a couple of group outings and so on. shes a flirt. problem is she flirts with everyone the same exact way(tickling, hitting blah blah). i c no signs from her at all since theya re given to everyone the same way. in fact she never returns my calls or text messages, sometimes never even answers the phone. still everytime i c her she acts all cool around me, i act like the not returning calls and stuff doesn't bother me (i dont even bring it up in fact). i hardly get alone time with this chick cuz she always with this AFC dude. this guys pays for everything, does everything, and will pretty much die for her. they are just friends but its obvious he likes her, he even told my boy that he does. but 24/7 this guy is with her and i have no access to her. on those group outings i had no choice but to invite him too....damn this AFC ****blocker..so what should i do cuz im not about to let an AFC win...plus even though shes not showing interest i still dont wanna give up.. any techniques or tips u guys can suggest to help grab her interest and eliminate that other dude from the picture?

o yea next mon is her b-day so i decided to get her something thoughtful but cheap ( i spent 14 bucks)...good or bad idea?

more specificity would be helpful....But so far from what i understand, it doesnt seem like she's interested in you at all. if a girl is at least interested in talking to you, she will call you back some point. dont do the presents thing...are you seeking validation from her?

 

[MightyMate]

I dont see a problem.

 

[TheMasterOfBation]

well shes not much of a phone person to begin with thats y i really don't pay mind to that part..she didn't even want a cell phone but her mom made her get it...no im not seeking validation at all, i just felt since im cool with her it would b appropriate keep in mind i spent very little...in fact all the guys who failed with her tried to buy her out..im not about to do that...o yea one more thing she has some psychological problems but is seeing help...she tried to commit suicide last semester over family problems, school, and a lot of drama with a couple of guy frinds who liked her..so im thinking that maybe shes on the defensive so is being very cautious in who she lets into her life...your thoughts?

 

[ScrewIt]

well shes not much of a phone person to begin with thats y i really don't pay mind to that part..she didn't even want a cell phone but her mom made her get it...no im not seeking validation at all, i just felt since im cool with her it would b appropriate keep in mind i spent very little...in fact all the guys who failed with her tried to buy her out..im not about to do that...o yea one more thing she has some psychological problems but is seeing help...she tried to commit suicide last semester over family problems, school, and a lot of drama with a couple of guy frinds who liked her..so im thinking that maybe shes on the defensive so is being very cautious in who she lets into her life...your thoughts?

whoa dude...i dont know about you but i would stay away indefinitely.
Sounds like she already has too much issues going on.

Dont think you can be a friend and have her as a fix-it project. it wont get anywhere, you gotta let her get over this herself. in the meantime, find any other girl than her to date.

 

[LeviathanIYG]

well shes not much of a phone person to begin with thats y i really don't pay mind to that part..she didn't even want a cell phone but her mom made her get it...no im not seeking validation at all, i just felt since im cool with her it would b appropriate keep in mind i spent very little...in fact all the guys who failed with her tried to buy her out..im not about to do that...o yea one more thing she has some psychological problems but is seeing help...she tried to commit suicide last semester over family problems, school, and a lot of drama with a couple of guy frinds who liked her..so im thinking that maybe shes on the defensive so is being very cautious in who she lets into her life...your thoughts?

Two words my friend.

DAMAGED GOODS!

Stay away, trust me save yourself the troubel and get out now.

 

[TheMasterOfBation]

u think so?? i dunno shes really sweet and although she did try to commit suicide, it does not make her any less of a person....this would be much easier if u actually knew her..but i understand what u r saying, however im not trying to fix her problems...but u never know maybe it's someone like me she needs to have her problems fixed

 

[t00dumb]

your placing her on a higher value than yourself, the question is not if she's a challenge but if ur a challenge for her. if not, than thats ur problem. stop pursuing and be pursued. sadly i think ur wasting too much time on her when u could be meeting other interesting girls like her.
here's a question, how do you act around her when u first met?
flirtatious, signs of interest, or as a casual friendliness.
women like to categorize men when they first meet. either as potential or not. if you don't pull a sign of interest early in the meetings they'll take it as you are a guy that beats around the bush and trying to work their way up but in reality, ur just digging urself a hole everytime u hang out with her without any initiatives. so what was ur approach in the beginning?