"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Welcome Back & Single and Loving It!!!

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Well, First off I welcome everyone back, I am glad to see the site is up and running again and things are starting off well. Also, who ever out there that runs this you are doing a great job.

The next thing I wanted to post was that I am now single and loving it. Wednesday my gf broke up with me to try to get another guy she likes better, I knew it was coming and don't think she will succeed with him. I guess she don't know that the grass always seems greener on the other side. Well, I wished her well and told her I hoped she would be happy but I knew that she was going to do it for a few days before hand. She started dressing different and acting different, also she acted more distant from myself. I had seen the signs with people before and knew what was happening but did not get myself upset. I really think if things don't work out for her that she will try to come back to me, I she tried within a week or so of Wednesday I may consider it but after that there is a snowballs chance in hell. Really right now I am enjoying myself being single. I always got worked up before her because I had never really had a gf before, by the way we made it right at 2 months and 6 hours short of a day, but I thought it would be great to have a gf but I found it is really a hassle and am glad to be single. I can hit on any girl I want and so on and so fourth but why am I telling you all this, I was told it was great to be single and didn't believe it but now know it true. I get all the time I want to pursue my hobbies of inline skating and promoting my business and website, www.visitgreenein.com.

I am sorry if this drags on but I just needed to put this out there for the world to know that before you have a gf it seems as if it would be great to have one, but once she is gone you feel much better. That is my piece and peace and I am sticking to it. Later All, Kegger:cool:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You said if she tries to get back with you soon enough you might consider it. Why? You're giving her the impression that she can just go dump you and try to get any guy she wants, but if she can't get him, she'll have you to fall back on.

Also, you shouldn't have even been official with her if you would rather be single. Why would you even get into a relationship with someone you didn't give a crap about? That makes no sense, and uses too many of your resources.
 

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MetalFortress said:
Also, you shouldn't have even been official with her if you would rather be single. Why would you even get into a relationship with someone you didn't give a crap about? That makes no sense, and uses too many of your resources.
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I always got worked up before her because I had never really had a gf before, by the way we made it right at 2 months and 6 hours short of a day
He achieved a 2 month relationship, that's huge for a first girlfriend. Yay!
She dumped him for another guy, he saw it coming. Yay!
He's not going "aww, why!". Yay!
He's merely just telling the world how awesome he feels to not be hurt. Yay!

Yay!
 

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You said if she tries to get back with you soon enough you might consider it. Why? You're giving her the impression that she can just go dump you and try to get any guy she wants, but if she can't get him, she'll have you to fall back on.

Also, you shouldn't have even been official with her if you would rather be single. Why would you even get into a relationship with someone you didn't give a crap about? That makes no sense, and uses too many of your resources.

I am a forgiving person so I would give around a week for her to decide what she has done but after that forget it. Also if we were to get back together I would let her know that any more it was over. Also I loved being in a relationship but now I am out of it there is much more time and energy to spend on other things, just while you are in a relationship you do not realize all of this but once you are out it all comes to you. Also I have alot less stress now and am overall happier.
 

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Just goes to show you!!!

Well it just goes to show you the grass always seems greener on the other side. My ex gf e-mailed me the message I am going to post. Remember she left me to try to go out with another guy and this is all she has to say, "you want me to be happy but im not since i left u ive goten grounded . ive gotten burnt on my fingers. ill never be happy plz under stand." Now I think that just goes to show you that the grass always seems greener on the other side. So if she wants me back do you think I should do it. I am considering it but if I do I know things will be different, I always let her do what she wanted before and that was the problem, I did not keep close enough eye on her and she got away but if I take her back I am grabbing all the control. I figure if she wants me back bad enough she will be willing to let me be most controlling and watching what she does. Because now I have learned that I can't trust her fully. What do you think? Have any of you been in similar circumstances? What did you do?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Ohh yes! Act like a bank and make her jump hoops for you if she wants you back. Force her to play along with your life, your times, your decisions. If she is following with true interest, why the hell not?!

Of course, if you take her back, make sure you cut that leash by about 70% there, lol.
And if you don't, I don't think she's a big loss. Cheaters suck anyways ^^,

Cheers! (Pm problems if you got any more!)
 

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Now Just Like A Women

Well, after that email she instant messaged me at a later time, that's ok, I was not online but now she is trying to put all the blame on myself. Why do women love to do this? I was going along and we were both happy and I did nothing but now the blame is being put on me. Also, I am not the type to get upset or emotional over things. I just usually try to put them behind me and sometimes typing thing like this helps but she says since I did not get upset it hurts her. I just want to know WHY IN THE F*&^ ARE WOMEN LIKE THIS? I know why but it is so anoying to deal with. I am homophobic to an extent but I can understand now why some people turn gay.
 

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women love drama

Why are women like that? Simple, they love drama. She thinks that by blaming you, she can put more drama into her life and get the relationship back at the same time. Don't let her. If she tries to blame you, either turn the blame around on her or just walk away. Dont grovel or ever agree that you were in the wrong. She broke up with you, right.

I'm proud of you man, you've done good this far, just keep at it the same as you were and keep moveing.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Docs said:
Read more often!

He achieved a 2 month relationship, that's huge for a first girlfriend. Yay!
She dumped him for another guy, he saw it coming. Yay!
He's not going "aww, why!". Yay!
He's merely just telling the world how awesome he feels to not be hurt. Yay!

Yay!
So what? My first relationship was with someone I gave a crap about, not just "to have a relationship". Quit with that "yay" thing, too. What are you, Sesame Street? It's almost as stupid as the fact that someone who posted this.

Go pick up some chicks before you attempt to talk down to me (or better yet, before you attempt to give out anymore advice)
 

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Well, after that email she instant messaged me at a later time, that's ok, I was not online but now she is trying to put all the blame on myself. Why do women love to do this? I was going along and we were both happy and I did nothing but now the blame is being put on me. Also, I am not the type to get upset or emotional over things. I just usually try to put them behind me and sometimes typing thing like this helps but she says since I did not get upset it hurts her. I just want to know WHY IN THE F*&^ ARE WOMEN LIKE THIS? I know why but it is so anoying to deal with. I am homophobic to an extent but I can understand now why some people turn gay.
It's pretty twisted for a chick to dump you, and then get pissed that you weren't hurt. That's proof positive of her using you for attention and validation. Ignore the ho. Believe it or not, there are chicks who don't do that weird sh!t. Find one of those.
 

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So what? My first relationship was with someone I gave a crap about, not just "to have a relationship". Quit with that "yay" thing, too. What are you, Sesame Street? It's almost as stupid as the fact that someone who posted this.

Go pick up some chicks before you attempt to talk down to me (or better yet, before you attempt to give out anymore advice)
You can stop trying to be cute now. My first relationship was with someone I cared about too, and I never had any statement about 'just having a relationship', that's a piss-poor attitude to dating.

I will not quit with my 'yay' words. If you are that sickened by the word Yay, run a javascript application to remove the word Yay out of every document you read.

I find it even funnier that you bring up that post. I think I don't read anywhere that I'm a failure as a PUA/DJ. The second line directly states that it was a thought process, not a 'my life is total ****, help me' Viper-comparsion thread. I do my pickups when I can, but I hold a full-time job and I was on a dry slide. Everyone has their days of downfall, search up the thread 'AC/DC is fukking up', directly from IMO one of the best people on this forum!

So, I like the idea of the first flame war of the forum's revival, but I'm not really interested. If you don't like the way I post threads or post advice, don't take a interest in it, use the ignore feature or just shut up trying to rebut my posts. Pick one and have a nice day.

Thanks.:D
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You can stop trying to be cute now. My first relationship was with someone I cared about too, and I never had any statement about 'just having a relationship', that's a piss-poor attitude to dating.

I will not quit with my 'yay' words. If you are that sickened by the word Yay, run a javascript application to remove the word Yay out of every document you read.

I find it even funnier that you bring up that post. I think I don't read anywhere that I'm a failure as a PUA/DJ. The second line directly states that it was a thought process, not a 'my life is total ****, help me' Viper-comparsion thread. I do my pickups when I can, but I hold a full-time job and I was on a dry slide. Everyone has their days of downfall, search up the thread 'AC/DC is fukking up', directly from IMO one of the best people on this forum!

So, I like the idea of the first flame war of the forum's revival, but I'm not really interested. If you don't like the way I post threads or post advice, don't take a interest in it, use the ignore feature or just shut up trying to rebut my posts. Pick one and have a nice day.

Thanks.:D
Aww, look, the KBJ is showing off his e-penis. After reading the rep-whoring in your signature, any credibility you ever had goes out the window.
 

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Comeon, to only come up with 'KBJ' and 'rep-whoring'??
KBJ - If you think so, good job.

Rep - At least it's not 'Gimme Rep!', it's 'If you like my advice..' That's not whoring by any standard, except yours.
 

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Be nice the two of you and you might get a popsicle (ice lollies for all of you from the UK). :crackup:
 

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Comeon, to only come up with 'KBJ' and 'rep-whoring'??
KBJ - If you think so, good job.

Rep - At least it's not 'Gimme Rep!', it's 'If you like my advice..' That's not whoring by any standard, except yours.
I don't need to come up with anything better than KBJ or rep-whoring, because that's what you are, and that's what you do. "Add a rep point" and "Gimme rep" are the same thing. Go out and meet some chicks instead of continuously getting owned.
 

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Never had a popsicle from the UK, is it any different from Canada?

Listen Metal, I'm not a KBJ. KBJ's submit total crap and don't know sweet nothing. I think last time I checked, I HAVE submitted full articles and I DO know something, or else I wouldn't be *****ing at you. I'm not on all the time either, so that puts KBJ down in the hole, because I still go out to shoot some pool in between my work and my much needed sleep. I chat up girls as I see fit, and I don't need to meet with more to fit your standards. If you wish to think me of less any longer, you surely go and do that, I have no problem from this point forward.

And if you REALLY hate me that much for having the words 'If you like my advice, Add a rep point', why don't you knock it down everytime someone adds one? It's a number on the internet, I could care less what I think about it, so make it useless to me if you must.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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