"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Weirdo Korean girl-giving me advice via Facebook-oh pleaseee

joe45

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ok i met this K girl at holt renfrew. gave her my card and she texted me and we went out for coffee at Tim Hortons. i had to carry the conversation and try to make more conversation. After the 3 weeks i asked her to go ice skating with me on robson square(since its free) and she said busy. she messages me back via facebook with her so called advice with the the message shown below. ok how bout the time we first met ,and i had to wait for 20 minutes for you. you didnt see me complain. ah no. i tried to make the most out of it. and whats wrong with it being FREE unless shes a golddigger. whats next i have to pick her up in a SL . sheesh K girls . uhh

`hey, I'm writing message to give you advice. you know?
your behavior is strange. if you are interested in someone or if you wanna make some friends, you have to change your behavior.
women like just small gentel or considerate actions.
after we met, you should have sent message that is asking if i am safe. and before you suggest another meeting, you should have sent some texts. just ask about my normal life.
but you had done nothing and then you suggested meeting.
it's so strange. it sounds that you wanna meet me only whenever you're bored.
the worst thing you did is 'the fee is free for you.'
it hurt women's confidence. never say that.
if you wanna pay for me, just pay at the time. probably women expect that.
Learn about women more. Learn about manner more.
I know you're not a bad man. you just don't know well.
I hope my advice works for you.``
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Warrior74

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Someone's been thinking about you eh? LOL. Sounds like she loves it.
 

betterthandead

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After reading your date interaction and communication I wouldn't call her weirdo.

Why did you wait 3 weeks?

Why ice skating? God that is so gay if a guy to bring a girl out for an lame ass ice skating date. Those are places where I'd go for myself, friends, or family. Not a date.

I would listen to the girl though and chalk this up as experience and move on. Be glad she said something before letting you go.

joe45 said:
ok i met this K girl at holt renfrew. gave her my card and she texted me and we went out for coffee at Tim Hortons. i had to carry the conversation and try to make more conversation. After the 3 weeks i asked her to go ice skating with me on robson square(since its free) and she said busy. she messages me back via facebook with her so called advice with the the message shown below. ok how bout the time we first met ,and i had to wait for 20 minutes for you. you didnt see me complain. ah no. i tried to make the most out of it. and whats wrong with it being FREE unless shes a golddigger. whats next i have to pick her up in a SL . sheesh K girls . uhh

`hey, I'm writing message to give you advice. you know?
your behavior is strange. if you are interested in someone or if you wanna make some friends, you have to change your behavior.
women like just small gentel or considerate actions.
after we met, you should have sent message that is asking if i am safe. and before you suggest another meeting, you should have sent some texts. just ask about my normal life.
but you had done nothing and then you suggested meeting.
it's so strange. it sounds that you wanna meet me only whenever you're bored.
the worst thing you did is 'the fee is free for you.'
it hurt women's confidence. never say that.
if you wanna pay for me, just pay at the time. probably women expect that.
Learn about women more. Learn about manner more.
I know you're not a bad man. you just don't know well.
I hope my advice works for you.``
 

powpow

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pretty sure youre friendzoned. dont worry about it. but she really does sound really asian. like more asian than american style. they do things differently in asia, like the guys give them gifts and stuff to try to woo them. dont stress it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Htienvu

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Sound like you didn't create enough rapport and went straight in. Different girl likes to be chased differently I guess, she doesn't sound weird to me.
 

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It sounds like she was into you but you ****ed it up. But when dealing with Asian women (from Asia) it is a different game, a lot of the rules that apply to Western women do not work. It sounds like you fell into that trap.
 

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Well you definitely got her thinking about you but you overshot. Why did you wait 3 weeks before initiating another date?

If a woman went out on a date with you, then she disappeared for 3 weeks everyone on this forum would be calling her a b!tch or would tell you to next her. She probably thought you dumped her and when you contacted her she tried to save face by giving you a list lol.
 

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this guy is fvcking weird. I've read many of his posts. He doesn't take any advice and creeps girls out.

all he does is post something bad that happened everyone gives him this advice and he never responds. He also asked for advice on his appearance and clothes which we gave but he never bothered to change probably.

This guy isn't a troll but might just as well classify him as one
 

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It has nothing to do with her culture...

Relationship =/= fling. Sometimes the "rules" are a bit different, make sure you understand her personality. When going for a relationship sometimes you'll find that women want you to show them that they are special to you and that you like their personality. But again it comes down to the sort of girl she is.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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JohnnyStrabler

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ArcBound said:
Well you definitely got her thinking about you but you overshot. Why did you wait 3 weeks before initiating another date?

If a woman went out on a date with you, then she disappeared for 3 weeks everyone on this forum would be calling her a b!tch or would tell you to next her. She probably thought you dumped her and when you contacted her she tried to save face by giving you a list lol.
wait, wait, wait!

Isnt that what we were supposed to do? Sorta just show interest and then give her plenty of space? Indifference etc. (after almost a month of lurking in this forum I read some posts that are like that)
 

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JohnnyStrabler said:
wait, wait, wait!

Isnt that what we were supposed to do? Sorta just show interest and then give her plenty of space? Indifference etc. (after almost a month of lurking in this forum I read some posts that are like that)
Waiting three weeks and then asking her to go figure skating is not how things get done.
 

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Waiting three weeks and then asking her to go figure skating is not how things get done.

true, but then what about the whole cutting off contact thing? plus, what if you have a legit reason? e.g. school?
 

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JohnnyStrabler said:
true, but then what about the whole cutting off contact thing? plus, what if you have a legit reason? e.g. school?
The no contact rule is generally just for break ups/rejections, or getting over oneitis.

If you have a legitmate reason for not seeing the girl for three weeks, then you can keep in contact with her with facebook or texting I've heard is popular. Or you can just put her on the backburner and move on to a new girl when you actually have time to date.
 

JohnnyStrabler

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SharinganUser said:
The no contact rule is generally just for break ups/rejections, or getting over oneitis.

If you have a legitmate reason for not seeing the girl for three weeks, then you can keep in contact with her with facebook or texting I've heard is popular. Or you can just put her on the backburner and move on to a new girl when you actually have time to date.

Oooooohhhhhhh ok, I get it now.

Just FYI; Tom Leykis says leave ASAP after you bang her, idk what thats about
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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While I agree she is probably a b!tch. she is Asian. And unless they are fully Americanized, they think VERY old school, especially the ones that came to the US after age 16 or so. Men should lead, be considerate, etc etc. keep that in mind when dating an Asian. They are super to date and fvck, and would make great wives, but you have to treat them a little differently.
 

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JohnnyStrabler said:
Oooooohhhhhhh ok, I get it now.

Just FYI; Tom Leykis says leave ASAP after you bang her, idk what thats about
I've never read his stuff but my educated guess would be that it helps keep either of you from getting to emotionally attached. It also shows her that you have other things to do.
 

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JohnnyStrabler said:
Oooooohhhhhhh ok, I get it now.

Just FYI; Tom Leykis says leave ASAP after you bang her, idk what thats about

Remember. ASAP means As Soon As Possible. But you have to determine what possible is.

What it doesn't mean is bust a nut and be out the door in 30 seconds like the house is on fire.

And it doesn't mean leaving the next morning after fixing her breakfast.

It means leaving soon enough that she doesn't get too deep into pillow talk and attachment, but no so soon that she feels like a slut. How do you know? You have to use your judgement of the girl and pay attention. (and probably make some mistakes)

After a while, throw out the "I gotta get up early..." and get dressed.
 
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