"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sorry, I'm adding another thread about text convos, but this was weird as hell...

(6pm) Me: I want to see you tomorrow.
(40 min later) Her: Do you enjoy waking me up
Me: With all my heart
Her: Its earyly
Me (thinkin wtf?): Heey we're in the pm right now, not am
Her: Then why is it darkk
Me: Hah I tried to figure you out, but I must say I'm baffled
Her: Ill talk toyou in a few hourss

Weird as hell. I'm 100% sure she wasn't drunk. And I'm almost sure it's BS cuz how the fwck does my text from 6 o'clock wake her up at 640? Unless it was delayed when sending but that doesn't usually happen

(couple hours later) Her: Mkay so tomorrow im busy from 9-3 and then from 530 on so it would have to be between then
Me: Sooo unavailable eh? Hows tuesday
Her: Well I do have like a two hour opening so i wouldnt say unavailable haha. And tuesdays worse blahh

blah blah, i said I had to see if i was doing something, then half an hour later i said i'd be free

Her: 300ishh. i just gotta be back by 5. What do you wanna do
Me: [name of ice rink]. have you been ice skating before?

blah blah blah

Her: im the epitome of graceful.
Me: Haha we'll see.

Then: she said she looked the place up online and it closes at 1. Fwck!!! She suggests next weekend, I say Friday if i'm not going out of town, she says "mkay ill have to see but possibly probably?"
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sounds like a bs response to me, but then again so is "Friday if i'm not going out of town". Pick a time, a place. Tell her she should come with you. Don't say maybe this day. Be decisive and be in control.

To me, her response of "mkay ill have to see but possibly probably?" comes from her reaction to you not manin up and picking a time and place and inviting her to join you. Saying "Friday if i'm not going out of town" means that you havent made plans with her yet. You are setting yourself up to failure because you havent commited to any plans, so why should she. So when friday comes around and let's say you dont go, she will probably already have plans. So if youre coming back sunday, tell her youre coming back sunday and invite her to such n such at __ time. If you go away you have plans with her, if you dont go away you still have plans with her. sounds like a win win. I know it's like you REALLY want to see her, and sooner the better. But ive been there, be patient, keep your cool and emotions in check, if she likes you, youll know.
 

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Well, I was hopin for Monday night.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If this is a relationship you can make exceptions, but she's playing the frame control game.

If you make a date offer, and she plays around and acts unavailable, i pull it right back and say nevermind then. It feels like your playing right into her game by trying to find another time, and she feels in control. To get her interested and thinking about you you need to knock her out of control, or else shes gona give you *****y replies like this.

Knock the frame back on her. Wana go skating tomorow at 3? no? Ok nvm. Call a different day and come up with a different date. If she keeps flaffing around and flaking then you know theres not enough to build on.

Or call her fat and hang up. Just dont chase her, thats what she wants. Its a war.
 

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Ease said:
If this is a relationship you can make exceptions, but she's playing the frame control game.

If you make a date offer, and she plays around and acts unavailable, i pull it right back and say nevermind then. It feels like your playing right into her game by trying to find another time, and she feels in control. To get her interested and thinking about you you need to knock her out of control, or else shes gona give you *****y replies like this.

Knock the frame back on her. Wana go skating tomorow at 3? no? Ok nvm. Call a different day and come up with a different date. If she keeps flaffing around and flaking then you know theres not enough to build on.

Or call her fat and hang up. Just dont chase her, thats what she wants. Its a war.
^I agree, sounds like she's trying to control you. Don't go chasing her around and making her think that you're re-scheduling all your sh!t just to see her, because it will put her in complete power and she WILL lose respect for you.
 
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sageproduct said:
Sorry, I'm adding another thread about text convos, but this was weird as hell...

(6pm) Me: I want to see you tomorrow.
(40 min later) Her: Do you enjoy waking me up
Me: With all my heart
Her: Its earyly
Me (thinkin wtf?): Heey we're in the pm right now, not am
Her: Then why is it darkk
Me: Hah I tried to figure you out, but I must say I'm baffled
Her: Ill talk toyou in a few hourss

Weird as hell. I'm 100% sure she wasn't drunk. And I'm almost sure it's BS cuz how the fwck does my text from 6 o'clock wake her up at 640? Unless it was delayed when sending but that doesn't usually happen

(couple hours later) Her: Mkay so tomorrow im busy from 9-3 and then from 530 on so it would have to be between then
Me: Sooo unavailable eh? Hows tuesday
Her: Well I do have like a two hour opening so i wouldnt say unavailable haha. And tuesdays worse blahh

blah blah, i said I had to see if i was doing something, then half an hour later i said i'd be free

Her: 300ishh. i just gotta be back by 5. What do you wanna do
Me: [name of ice rink]. have you been ice skating before?

blah blah blah

Her: im the epitome of graceful.
Me: Haha we'll see.

Then: she said she looked the place up online and it closes at 1. Fwck!!! She suggests next weekend, I say Friday if i'm not going out of town, she says "mkay ill have to see but possibly probably?"
my friend, NO NO NO.

She gave you the opening, she told you that she wants your company between 3 and 5, and she wanted for YOU to take the lead and see if you are either

a) a don juan, b) a nice guy, c) a moron, or d) a gay friend

You decided to be a nice guy, by suggesting ice skating - WHY ARE YOU LYING TO YOURSELF??? YOU REALLY WANT TO ICE SKATE WITH THIS GIRL HUH? YOU THINK ICE SKATING IS GOING TO LEAD TO SEX? if you enjoy ice skating so much, then why not just go by yourself?

What you really should have done, was chosen option a), and this is how the text convo should have went:



Her: Mkay so tomorrow im busy from 9-3 and then from 530 on so it would have to be between then

You: Aight sounds good sweetheart, I can stop by your place with (insert hot new DVD name, such as Hangover ect) and some wine, we're gonna train to be movie critics baby!

Her response to this will tell you exactly how interested she is in you, and if you get anything other than a yes, then you simply move on to another girl. If you get a yes, then you go see her with wine and movie, escalate the kissing, and go for kill (no, I am not going to give you a step by step guide on how to escalate from kissing to sex, you should already know that)

After all, you want the ladies to play by YOUR rules, not vice versa (and if you truly were the one leading a female, you would not be trying to go ice skating, don't lie to yourself or to anyone else), and if a chick does not want to follow your lead, then she is ultimately useless to you.

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