"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Weird night ... Need Advice.

Victory Bars

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Firstly awesome forum! I've been lurking for a while and I've finally joined.

Anyway last night I had a really strange date and I'm hoping for some advice on what to do next. I went out with a friends of mines sister who recently spit with her bf, the night was going really well (or at least I thought it was) drinking, dancing, making out ... all good absolutely no tell tale signs of her losing interest. At around 2.30am after coming back from the bar she was in full swing (practically f**king on the dance floor) with another guy!

Luckily I got with another girl (in another club) too so all was not lost but here's the part where I need some advice.

I woke up next morning with 3 messages from her saying how sorry she was and that the guy she was with was her ex bf and how he is a creep etc etc. Problem is I am guaranteed to see this girl again I'm friends with the same people. What do I do?

If it was any other girl I would ignore her and that would be the end of it but that will be hard to do as we often end up on nights out together.

P.S shes also really hot.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Greasy Pig

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If it's awkward before you've fvcked her, it'll be a living hell after.
But I sometimes subscribe to the school of fvcking and then worrying about the consequences.
By the way, if she's going to act that way with her ex and then try to act innocent, she should not be considered for anything more than a fvck buddy.
These slvts think they can get away with anything.
 

Victory Bars

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Thanks for the advice, much appreciated!

To be honest fvck buddy was the original goal ... I diddn't / don't want a full time gf.

So Should I go back out with this girl and try again or not? I'm still kind of taken back that I got out staged and I sort of want to do it again and make sure I seal the deal this time ... but then again I got completely disrespected by this girl so not sure?!
 

TheCWord

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As the philosopher Disco Stu once said, "Back away, not today, disco lady!"

Full ignore. Who cares if you see her around? You smile politely and say hey. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE DID!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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