"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Weird misunderstanding

JLW

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Here's what I don't understand:

There's all these threads about how women cheat. But when I'm in a relationship, I would NEVER cheat on my girl. And I really mean that. I've been absolutely piss drunk out of my head with a girl coming onto me really strong and I still resisted.

Am I just a very very rare exception?

I guess I'm just confused as to how a girl would cheat, when my character is so different.

I guess what I'm saying is, if there's a guy (aka, me) who wouldn't cheat, isn't there a woman out there, SOMEWHERE? I find it hard to believe that 99% of women are cheating liars. I mean I would think its a number more like 50-70%.

Or am I really that rare of a person, who really would never cheat on his girlfriend? I don't know, I just find it hard to believe that there are that many people who are unfaithful.

And at a mere 18 years old I just feel so cynical about people and relationships in general. Is this all really true? Are people REALLY that untrustworthy and unfaithful?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sure there are women with the same values as you.
 

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jlw. say a friend stole fifty bucks out of you wallet. you would probably think from then on in that if you leave your wallet unguarded money will go missing. when in fact that most people aren't thieves. you only got scamed once but you learned your lesson.

same thing with some people here on the dj forum. they have been cheated on and now are a little untrusting. basically it's always good to keep your guard up because you could get a girl with the same values like flexion said or you could meet one of the cheaters like the thief.

sometimes when i'm standing in line at the grocery store and i pick up cosmo to read the cheating chicks section. it's funny how these girls glorify cheating like it's the hottest thing going on. jlw...there are one women men out there. just sometimes it takes great luck to find them
 

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Hey guys,

I think it's just really really disheartening for me to read this forum and I just hear all these stories about how guys are having difficult situations with their girl. For example, your girl hanging otu with another guy.

Then, a lot of guys will jump in and say "Oh, she's cheating on you probably."

Now, in a lot of instances, she probably IS cheating on you, based on what a lot of guys post here. But a small minority of the time, it's really nothing.

It's just sort of upsetting to hear that there are this many unfaithful women. And it's gotten to the point where I'm extremely cynical and distrustful towards women (and men too, obviously not in an intimate sort of way =P .), especially when it comes to relationships.

Maybe I shouldn't take this forum to heart so much. I think I just read into these things too much and think "wow, every girl is a cheating *****". And then I get depressed, and then I get angry.

I suppose the solution would be to stop reading the forums, but sometimes I do find them helpful.
 

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a girl that tells you that your the only one for her and that she'll love you forever. those are just words. some women are addicted to the puppydog love stage and once that ends and the relationship becomes normal and complacent, they will stray to the more fun and excitement again. it always seems that when you give your whole heart to a woman they will step on it. yet if you don't give them nothing at all they will give you everything.

it's sad but cheating brings excitement into some peoples lives at the expense of others. women always give the excuse that it just happened. nothing just happens. people have choices for reasons. thats why i could never understand why people will give that person a second chance. i could never sit there and rationalize that they made a mistake. somebody mentioned on the forum that a girl they just started dating used to cheat on all her exs in the past yet they say that was the past and she is now changed. any guy that has been cheated on countless times would tell you differently that they don't change. what makes you think your better than the rest of the guys in her wake. if your dating a girl who is flirty with everybody that is just asking for trouble.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I guess maybe the best solution is not to get too attached to a girl, and have fun with her until she eventually does cheat on you (unless there's the rare case that she doesnt)

I don't know, it just seems really dismal and depressing to me.

I suppose the only thing you can do is be the best person you can be. Do everything (or at least most) of what the DJ bible says, and accept that you have no control over the girl.

I can't explain why, but it almost seems like if you're in a relationship and you don't plan on cheating, you're pretty much a sitting duck just waiting to get stepped on. And the only way you can avoid it is basically, cheat or be cheated on.

The whole thing is just ****ed up and makes me reconsider things.
 
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