"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Weekday vs. Weekend dates

Dash Riprock

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Just curious...

How many weekday dates do you give a girl before she "earns" a weekend date with you?

I usually shoot for 3 weekday dates; by then she usually says something anyway. I always give the impression I've got a lot going on and am trying hard to work her into my "super-busy social schedule."

DJ thoughts?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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I never use a specific number. What matters is whether you want to do something with her on the weekend. I usually do other things during the weekend (at least during the day) and I would have to make special time for a woman. They key is to have an active life regardless on whether you are seeing women, it makes things much easier than if you have all the free time in the world. It's another way to contract one-itis.
 

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This is AFC thinking. Do whatever the hell you want, in whatever order you want. Go by your interest level. Do keep up the impression of having a life though, like you say you don't want to seem "too available".

Dash Riprock said:
Just curious...

How many weekday dates do you give a girl before she "earns" a weekend date with you?

I usually shoot for 3 weekday dates; by then she usually says something anyway. I always give the impression I've got a lot going on and am trying hard to work her into my "super-busy social schedule."

DJ thoughts?
 

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I hate this whole "she has to earn it" mentality I see around here.

I understand a lot of the guys here have confidence issues and need this false sense of how awesome they are so they talk about making a woman "earn" this or that. But it's crap. It's a crutch that you might need for a little while, and if it works use it, but it's not the type of mentality you should carry around for long.

Can you imagine what a turn off it would be if you met a girl and took her out on a date on a tuesday, but she wouldn't give you a friday because you hadn't "earned" it yet? You'd next that girl in a hot second because you'd think to yourself "who the hell do you think you are? You think you're better than me?"

3 weekday dates before a weekend date? C'mon, after three dates is when I have already decided if I'm going to keep seeing this girl or not.

Weekend, weekday, it doesn't really matter. Yes, you want to let her know that you have an active social life. But if she can't get you on a weekend for two straight weeks she'll know something's up and cut it off.

Rememer, the number one thing girls are afraid of (early in a relationship) is getting hurt. Anything that you do that gets on her "I'm going to get hurt" radar, she's going to pull away fast.

You have to be honest with yourself and her about the whole deal. If you're thinking formulas like this you don't have the right mindset to get in a serious relationship with a girl (assuming that's what you're there for).

If it's been three dates and you can't see yourself seeing her seriously, put her smack in the friend zone.
 

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ROFL still more of these type of post. What is up with this certain number rule shiit i see around here. Call a biitch X amount of times, do this a certain number of times. Bottom line do WHAT THE FUUCK YOU WANT WHEN YOU WANT. I swear if guys had real genuine confidence they wouldn't be coming hear asking redundant silly questions like this.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I use a very precise method of determining this with relevant data such as interest level, rate of fun, and sexual potential. I assign each of these categories a number, add them together, multiply by 34 then divide by 5 for no particular reason.

That determines how many weekday dates I will go on before I go on a weekend date with a woman. The system is thrown off by full Moons and planetary conjunctions, and this weekend we had both. So my weekend was spent retooling the whole formula. Because without it, how can I determine when to go out with women? Oh yeah....I'm a guy with balls who decides what he wants to do when he wants to do it.
 

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Alphamale1821 said:
ROFL still more of these type of post. What is up with this certain number rule shiit i see around here. Call a biitch X amount of times, do this a certain number of times. Bottom line do WHAT THE FUUCK YOU WANT WHEN YOU WANT. I swear if guys had real genuine confidence they wouldn't be coming hear asking redundant silly questions like this.
Way to try to brag... Anyway... I do agree with the importance of lack confidence. I always stress that people should work on their confidence. For example finding their true self and what makes them confident. Hobbies, friends, tastes, etc... Also staying away from things that make them feel unconfident. For example playing an MMORPG for 18 hours a day...

If a guy is seeking advice, we give it. A huge part of that advice is don't bug her and don't just fall in her lap. We try to push the AFC guys into a direction where they start to realize things and become more self sufficient.

In response to call her when ever you want... What if he wants to call her and talk to her for hours? That will just drive her away...... Super AFC guys would do that...
 

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ConantheLibertarian said:
I use a very precise method of determining this with relevant data such as interest level, rate of fun, and sexual potential. I assign each of these categories a number, add them together, multiply by 34 then divide by 5 for no particular reason.

That determines how many weekday dates I will go on before I go on a weekend date with a woman. The system is thrown off by full Moons and planetary conjunctions, and this weekend we had both. So my weekend was spent retooling the whole formula. Because without it, how can I determine when to go out with women? Oh yeah....I'm a guy with balls who decides what he wants to do when he wants to do it.
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