"Really now? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought you just said the place went into two camps and Latinoman was on the "real men" camp. I don't know the oldschool crew much, but it seems DIESEL was on the other bench, then again, it was only one thread. Also Str8up seem to be quite unsatisfied with just the other option of the hook up life. Interceptor, Joekerr, and VU seem to lean toward the LTR path than the other one."
I might of placed Latinoman in that category earlier in that thread you are thinking of but then I'm pretty sure after rethinking things I then used Jophil and Str8up as examples of the two opposing lines of thought in this place and I admitted to Str8up after his reply that I probably didn't quite define the lines as good as I would've liked since he corrected me on a great deal of where I went wrong with my example concerning him but still he did say that he saw where I was coming from with it and seemed to think I was on the right track about there being two different lines of thinking here but they just need to be better defined in a way that gives a general outline but is not absolutist like my defining examples may of been.
I used the term "Real Man" as an opposing category to what I believe to be the genuine DJ mentality for lack of a better term to define posters like jophil, latinoman, et al.
Str8up made a great point in another thread that said you can't totally define a person and wrap them up in a box in a neat little bow and though he wasn't making this point to me directly as I wasn't in the thread where he made this reply to someone else, I think it is how I should approach any future defining attempts of the two opposing factions on this site. If ever a circumstance or topic arises where a defining of the two camps is needed it should be made in a generalized non absolute type of way by me or anyone else who would try to do this.
This not being able to place people in a neat little box is shown perfectly in that Latinoman as I said in my earlier post in this thread gives plenty of good advice on how to both simply hook up with chicks and have succesful long term relationships with them.
Both camps on this site do at times overlap and give advice that the other camp is usually most prone to give. It doesn't however mean that they've suddenly switched sides. For example sometimes I give morality type of advice that is reminiscent of the other side's position but I do not side with them in totality.
"Aside from those questions, I dislike how you term "societal construct." While denotatively it only says relationships and marriage are by society, connoatively and in context it sounds far more likely that you mean relationships and marriage is a matrix that is used to trap for the blind."
Well what I mean in actuality is a lot of people are so lost in life, life is so automatically laid out for them, that they simply don't think of another option for how they should live their life, it just never comes to them or they just never entertain the idea, not because of blindness really but because the other idea has never been made aware to them as a viable other option for them to live their life with. Relationships have always existed since humans came into being (method of survival) but marriage and prostitution are societal constructs as a fact.
Most AFC's for example come to this site with the idea that if they want sex they have only three options ie 1. girlfriend 2. marriage 3. prostitute
They never think of option 4 which says you can live your life simply hooking up with random chicks fvcking your brains out and being sexually gratified and fulfilled with that style of living.
The first two have the person committing money and other resources while the third is simply money.
Option 4 has you sometimes using no money at all other than paying for half of the date or simply only the money you use up for gas as you drive to the party.
Option 4 is the most cost free male empowering way of living and works best for those who have a ton of game.
Option 4 by the very name of this site being named after "Don Juan" is really what this site is supposed to be all about but AFC's and RAFC's with good intentions have slowly and subtley changed the agenda of the site to primarily be about relationships ie getting into them and maintaining them.
Lots of great inner game information and information on getting chicks has been put forth over the years but the true message of this site and intention of this site thanks to the well intentioned RAFC's has been lost.
The term DJ here has become a contradictory conflict creating mess thanks to them.
