picard
Master Don Juan
Do people treat you seriously if you wear tie & suit compare to blue jeans & plain shirt? My company requires all office male employees wear neck ties & dress shirt with a suit.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
wearing neck tie & shirt with suit
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Marlimus
Senior Don Juan
Surely someone of your age and experience need not ask such a question...?
diablo
Master Don Juan
I seriously hope this question is rhetorical. Jeans and plain shirts are great if you're making minimum wage, in a dead-end job, or have bosses with an extremely liberal management style. Suits are perceived by 99.99999% of the public as being worn by successful individuals - how many fry cooks at McD's do you see wearing a Brooks Brothers tailor-cut suit? How many do you see wearing jeans? 'Nuff said.
GirlCrazy
Master Don Juan
As my mentor drilled into me years ago, perception is reality. Even the kid who works at mickey d's could go buy a suit and give the impression that he's successful.
But at a certain level of the game, I'm not sure that it matters much. I know millionaires who go to work in dockers and a polo shirt. At the last company I worked for, the CEO wore polos, the CFO wore silk suits, and the other VP's did that black t-shirt with a sports coat thing, while I wore sweats half the time. Since I received the only bonus in the history of the company (it was a publicly traded company so it had to be approved by the board), I can't say that wearing sweats to work hurt my career.
Right now I'm sitting in my Spokane office wearing khaki shorts and a tye-dyed t, and about the only time you'll see me in a suit is for a) job interviews and b) meetings with clients. At my office in So. Cal., the building itself has a dress code, which I usually adhere to.
But at a certain level of the game, I'm not sure that it matters much. I know millionaires who go to work in dockers and a polo shirt. At the last company I worked for, the CEO wore polos, the CFO wore silk suits, and the other VP's did that black t-shirt with a sports coat thing, while I wore sweats half the time. Since I received the only bonus in the history of the company (it was a publicly traded company so it had to be approved by the board), I can't say that wearing sweats to work hurt my career.
Right now I'm sitting in my Spokane office wearing khaki shorts and a tye-dyed t, and about the only time you'll see me in a suit is for a) job interviews and b) meetings with clients. At my office in So. Cal., the building itself has a dress code, which I usually adhere to.
picard
Master Don Juan
I know how to dress in business environment. I see several people who dress quite shabby but they work in high position. I just don't want to over dress that's all. I can't believe the senior people dress like characters from "revenge of the nerds" movie. Their pants are pull up high and mismatch color socks. They dress in this manner all the time. I wonder how these guys attract the women. These guys are actually married. I am shocked when I found out about it.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
GirlCrazy
Master Don Juan
As long as you have a job that allows (or expects) you to be eccentric, it can actually be a plus. It just doesn't work if you're a file clerk or janitor, or even a mid-level manager.seanchai said:
About the socks, I noticed that the more I wore mismatched socks, the more random people at work gave me socks as gifts. I went years without buying socks
