We shouldn't hit on women? I don't get it.

[the_govner]

Was just reading one of pook's (a brilliant writer) articles in the bible and he mentioned how we shouldn't be hitting on women, I don't get it. What's the diff between approaching women and hitting on them? And if we don't hit on them, per se, don't we get in the dreaded friend zone?


This is the link: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16926

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

Could you provide the link to that article so we can read for ourselves what Pook meant in its proper context?

 

[comic_relief]

I understand what Pook was trying to say and I have to say that he is spot on.

Hitting on a girl = showing your cards too quickly

If you show your cards too quickly, then there won't be ANY mystery. She will think "Oh no, just another loser."

BUT!!!

Approaching a girl and talking casually + c/f = wtf?!? Does he like me or doesn't he? I cannot count the number of times that I have used that and got a success with the ladies.

Actually, my current girlfriend didn't know I even liked her for about three weeks because I would constantly tease her and just act friendly. Then, as she was complaining to me about her weight and her best friend was there.
Her: "I look ugly."
Me: "Stop that right now, you are actually one of the most attractive women that I ever met."

This played an entire 180 degree reversal in her mind. Now, we have been dating for eight months and two days.

When you go in hitting on a girl, you already are placing her on a pedestal. If she is on a pedestal, then you cannot see who she truely is. As DJ's, it is our duty to only pick out the best. My current girlfriend didn't knew I liked her because I didn't know that I liked her at all.

Approach = no desire for anything but a good friendship.

Don't hit on her, just approach her as you would a male friend. Try to make friends to find out what she is like then decide.

comic_relief

 

[EFFORT]

Was just reading one of pook's (a brilliant writer) articles in the bible and he mentioned how we shouldn't be hitting on women, I don't get it. What's the diff between approaching women and hitting on them? And if we don't hit on them, per se, don't we get in the dreaded friend zone?


This is the link: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16926

he's not saying to not hit on women, he's just saying not to come off desperate and needy

 

[EFFORT]

I understand what Pook was trying to say and I have to say that he is spot on.

Hitting on a girl = showing your cards too quickly

i don't agree with this, if your "higher value" than her it won't matter at all, they know whats up anyways

If you show your cards too quickly, then there won't be ANY mystery. She will think "Oh no, just another loser."

only if you are a loser. If your a cool guy with his **** together it won't matter.

BUT!!!

Approaching a girl and talking casually + c/f = wtf?!? Does he like me or doesn't he? I cannot count the number of times that I have used that and got a success with the ladies.

c+f is flirting.....flirting his hitting on a chick? Maybe we have different definitions of what "hitting on" means

Actually, my current girlfriend didn't know I even liked her for about three weeks because I would constantly tease her and just act friendly.

she probably knew you liked her, girls aren't as dumb about these things as they act

Then, as she was complaining to me about her weight and her best friend was there.
Her: "I look ugly."
Me: "Stop that right now, you are actually one of the most attractive women that I ever met."

This played an entire 180 degree reversal in her mind. Now, we have been dating for eight months and two days.


When you go in hitting on a girl, you already are placing her on a pedestal.

no its not, I'm guessing we have different meanings of "hitting on"

If she is on a pedestal, then you cannot see who she truely is. As DJ's, it is our duty to only pick out the best. My current girlfriend didn't knew I liked her because I didn't know that I liked her at all.

Approach = no desire for anything but a good friendship.

i disagree with this too, if i'm attracted i'm approaching with the desire to hook up, but not in a way that i'm giving away my power

Don't hit on her, just approach her as you would a male friend. Try to make friends to find out what she is like then decide.

if your trying to start an LTR this would make sense, but if your just looking for some fun who cares about what shes like, were guys we go by looks.

comic_relief

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[lildevil]

Once again i Think everyone is over analizing pook...pook is straight up pook he is just saying..... always be unpredictable and don't do what you would naturally do(call her same time,be always with her for a girl your falling in love with....be interested ....but at the same time try not go buckwild for the chick...

Always elude your confidence and masculity while clearing your mind and killing the desperation

pook....

What theme can we find in the above? It is that the man always puts the woman on the pedestal rather then himself.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

no no .. hitting on woman means her releasing her B!TCH SHIELD . She releases it cuz she got hit all the time and it becomes routine to her to shut down every guy that hits on her ..

So u gotta be different ( thats why ur DJ ) and approach them in different way not like : Hey beautiful , can i buy you a drink or things like this that every looser saw this on a movie and now try this all the time .

Of course u get shot down .. But once u can get through that ***** shield than u can seduce her .. have fun

 

[Answers]

hit on women Vs attracting women

I think what Pook means is not to worry about impressing the women, just talk to them and you'll attract them by being your best self. If shes not attracted who cares??? move on to another.

 

[DonGorgon]

Well the problem with that logic is that for every guy that decides not to hit on women there are 25 other guys hitting on them so the desired effect is not achieved unless you are a celebrity/super model male.

 

[The Deacon]

You can hit on a girl as long as you're not desperate/needy/creepy. If you come on too strong, you're creepy. If you don't come on to her at all, you're not getting anywhere. I agree with a lot of what Pook says, but I strongly disagree with that one. Of course she's gonna release her b!tch shield, you're just supposed to diffuse it.

 

[Answers]

Well the problem with that logic is that for every guy that decides not to hit on women there are 25 other guys hitting on them so the desired effect is not achieved unless you are a celebrity/super model male.

Yeah there are 25 guys hitting on the woman and 1 guy not. Who gets more attention from her now??

 

[the_govner]

I understand everything, but how do you keep away from the friend zone when your just being friendly?

Also, I'm not complaining about Pook's article as they have done nothing but help me and almost everyone else on this site, just clarifying.

 

[Ricky]

Pook's a great writer. Have no idea how he found the time to write the stuff he did.

Was he a keyboard jockey though? The world may never know!

 

[Obsidian]

What the Great One truly means:

A real man does not flirt. Flirting is a subtle, womanly way of showing interest. A man takes what he wants. A man is fun and lively (at all times, because he is testosteronized and possess a positive outlook), but he does not put on a show to impress a woman.

Instead of flirting, a man approaches, converses in a friendly manner, qualifies the girl, and then if he is pleased with her, he #-closes. Read Anti-Dump's Machine and you will understand. The links are below.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39729
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39769
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39785
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39887
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39888
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40188
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40241
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40347
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40698
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58363

 

[comic_relief]

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most likely, you do have a different idea of what hitting on is.

my idea of hitting on a girl is very AFC with comments are designed to be very direct such as "Your hot" or "I like you" or a pickup line.

flirting on the other hand is very subtle. Hitting on a girl is really direct.

comic_relief

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

Yeah there are 25 guys hitting on the woman and 1 guy not. Who gets more attention from her now??

Probably the alpha male out of those 25. Certainly not the chode sitting by himself in the corner trying to act cool and disinterested.

 

[EFFORT]

most likely, you do have a different idea of what hitting on is.

my idea of hitting on a girl is very AFC with comments are designed to be very direct such as "Your hot" or "I like you" or a pickup line.

flirting on the other hand is very subtle. Hitting on a girl is really direct.

comic_relief

Yeah we have different different ideas of what it is.

 

[DonGorgon]

Yeah there are 25 guys hitting on the woman and 1 guy not. Who gets more attention from her now??

The best looking/richest 5 of the 25 that are hitting on her... She is to busy with them to worry about the quiet guy by himself in the corner....

 

[DonGorgon]

Probably the alpha male out of those 25. Certainly not the chode sitting by himself in the corner trying to act cool and disinterested.

look like we are no the same page there gov.

 

[Obsidian]

Probably the alpha male out of those 25. Certainly not the chode sitting by himself in the corner trying to act cool and disinterested.

in my experience, she's probably more likely to go for the chode than for any of the 25 guys. More likely, she will realize how idiotic the 25 guys are for competing over her and will eventually start to chase after the one guy who she can't easily have.

But you are all missing the point. Why should any of the 25 guys be hitting on her? Why should they be trying to impress her instead of just trying to get to know her?! You all should re-read Pook.